and besides that, setup is something you do only once, the real struggle comes next, I have never self-hosted matrix but see people complaining or even de-federating due to server burden, while I do host a #chatmail server with +8k users in a 5eur VPS using 1.2gb of ram and 19gb of disk, now try the same with #matrix
He provat tres programaris de #MissatgeriaInstantΓ nia, tant com administrador com usuari. El meu resum.
- #Matrix, servidor complexe d'instal·lar i configurar, molt lent federant sales. Menja força recursos de mà quina.
That article doesn't seem to say much of anything about getting the server up and running. Self hosting using Conduit is as easy as running an executable as a service, then configuring a reverse proxy to point to it. Very easily done with a systemd service, very easily done with a Docker container. The only documented method to self host a Chatmail relay is to run a magical deploy script that has SSH access to the root account. Root access for a script is unacceptable unless it's the only thing running on that machine, and I don't want to dedicate a machine to Chatmail only.
we are not claiming that the current setup is fit for everyone's usage. especially more professional admins or self-hosters might struggle a bit if they want to adapt things. The setup of a relay on some remote host indeed currently assumes it controls the whole machine/vm. Locally there is no root-needed to run "cmdeploy run". In any, there is currently no big lack of relays. Using existing ones is no sin. relays are not hosting identities.
@chris yes, there is initial support for that rolling out currently, see support.delta.chat/t/how-to-mi⦠and be sure to first update all devices -- the 2.33 releases are rolling to most stores but #fdroid will probably still be a bit later.
Letβs say you have initially created a profile on the default relay and want to migrate away from it. Update at least to 2.33 on all your devices: Help testing upcoming Delta Chat 2.33.
@chris with version 2.33, you can go to the settings > Advanced > Relays, and scan the QR code of on of the relays on chatmail.at/relays to create a new address :) as soon as you write to a group, the members will message you at your new address.
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Letβs say you have initially created a profile on the default relay and want to migrate away from it. Update at least to 2.33 on all your devices: Help testing upcoming Delta Chat 2.33.
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in reply to Kenny • • •@kbruen well I guess that is a matter of opinion? because this other person is saying totally the opposite:
mastodont.cat/@spla/1156953525β¦
and besides that, setup is something you do only once, the real struggle comes next, I have never self-hosted matrix but see people complaining or even de-federating due to server burden, while I do host a #chatmail server with +8k users in a 5eur VPS using 1.2gb of ram and 19gb of disk, now try the same with #matrix
I am total noob self-hoster btw
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mastodont.cat, cultura catalana.adb
in reply to adb • • •@kbruen for example, here you have an article of someone that has been selfhosting matrix for 5 years:
yaky.dev/2025-11-30-self-hostiβ¦
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Self-hosting a Matrix server for 5 years
yaky.devKenny
in reply to adb • • •Self hosting using Conduit is as easy as running an executable as a service, then configuring a reverse proxy to point to it. Very easily done with a systemd service, very easily done with a Docker container.
The only documented method to self host a Chatmail relay is to run a magical deploy script that has SSH access to the root account. Root access for a script is unacceptable unless it's the only thing running on that machine, and I don't want to dedicate a machine to Chatmail only.
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so can we now switch for one relay to another easily?
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