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the issue of #nobot #noindex, it's the fact it's opt-out

and people are fedup of opt out and want opt in

#noindex #nobot

With #HolosDiscover we checked multiple criteria before indexing: "indexable" enabled, account not locked, no #nobot or #noindex in bio, not in opted-out list, only public posts. Every deletion, edit or block was processed instantly via #ActivityPub.
Google uses that same "indexable" flag but ignores everything else, keeps deleted content cached for weeks.
We shut it down after pushback. Was that the right call? Don't hesitate to share, this concerns the whole Fediverse.

  • It should have stayed up (55%, 123 votes)
  • Right call to shut it down (25%, 57 votes)
  • No opinion (18%, 40 votes)
220 voters. Poll end: in 6 days

#activitypub #noindex #nobot #holosdiscover

@tehstu
Our previous mechanism was actually more thorough than that. Before following or indexing anyone, we checked multiple signals: indexable enabled, account not locked, no #nobot in bio. But since indexable is enabled by default when you create an account, we were closer to opt-out than opt-in. That's why we're rethinking the approach with explicit opt-in.
#nobot @Stu

[here we go again]

"Only public posts from consenting users are indexed. We respect every signal available."

But there is the entire problem in a nutshell:

What about people who have never heard of Holos Discovery and who never will unless they receive a Follow request?

Allegedly only consenting users are indexed

I have #NoIndex #Nobot set on my profile and I have to approve Follows

But during the convo I had earlier that person said:

"Your content has been removed from our index and you won't be contacted again."

To which I replied:

"So you've --> already <-- "scraped my content" without my knowledge or permission..."

I then asked about second-party scraping -- someone I Follow and interact with has been "Discovered" and Indexed -- and thus my content has been indexed too, without my knowledge or consent

At that, they never returned to answer

The core point is, historically a lot of people have not wanted to found, scraped, and indexed for unknown third-party use

Here we go again...

#noindex #nobot

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