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It seems this issue has resurrected, or resumed

My entire point (all the noise notwithstanding) focused on

Default opt-in versus default opt-out

This is an agent --> recipient transaction

Default opt-in: the recipient is opted into (and participates in) the agent's action whether the recipient --> knows of <-- the action or not

Default opt-out: the recipient is opted out of (and cannot participate in) the action whether the recipient --> knows of <-- the action or not

Neither default opt-in nor default opt-out have any logical meaning if THE RECIPIENT DOES NOT KNOW OF THE AGENT in advance

Here is one of the oldest prior discussions I participated in on Github with Ryan (snarfed) Barrett re: bridgy-fed back starting in February of 2024

Read all of it; it's very long

Here: github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/…

With that, I'm out

Y'all have fun, eh?

#HolosDiscover #HolosIndex #Mastodon #Fediverse #ActivityPub


With #HolosDiscover we checked multiple criteria before indexing: "indexable" enabled, account not locked, no #nobot or #noindex in bio, not in opted-out list, only public posts. Every deletion, edit or block was processed instantly via #ActivityPub.
Google uses that same "indexable" flag but ignores everything else, keeps deleted content cached for weeks.
We shut it down after pushback. Was that the right call? Don't hesitate to share, this concerns the whole Fediverse.

  • It should have stayed up (56%, 115 votes)
  • Right call to shut it down (25%, 52 votes)
  • No opinion (18%, 38 votes)
205 voters. Poll end: in 6 days


After shutting down #HolosDiscover, we're rethinking the approach with #HolosIndex: users explicitly opt in by adding #HolosIndex to their bio with interest tags, then submit their profile. No assumptions, no default settings.
This will power interest-based discovery across the #Fediverse, helping people find each other through shared interests. Still all through #ActivityPub of course, with real-time deletions and updates.


Hello World!

We're building a social web alternative to open graph, powered by @webintents and @fedidb

The website and documentation will be published soon, stay tuned πŸš€

#SocialWebGraph #WebIntents #Fediverse #ActivityPub


Cool!
I didn't know about that before.
It's a great tool; searching across instances is something that has been missing until now! Especially whether federalization will take place or not...

A Fedi search engine that plays by Fediverse guidelines β€” who wouldn't welcome that?

ten of ten
⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐

#ActivityPub


With discover.holos.social we may have highlighted that many Fediverse users don't pay attention to their default settings. We built a fully respectful search engine that only relies on #ActivityPub, with instant deletion, updates, and indexing only consenting users. We will likely shut down the service, but the source code will remain available as we believe the approach is ethical. That same indexable setting already lets Google index your posts and keep them cached long after deletion.


The walled gardens of the big tech-platforms will be their demise. So much innovation is lost because of the need for control.

Really, the U.S. platforms are not forward looking. The have hit reverse a long time ago, going full speed towards history.

In the previous century I could pick up a phone and call anyone. Try that with the big platforms. NoT wiTHout a DeAl!

Open protocols are the way ahead.

#activitypub @pluralistic


The Future Is Federated

...

And will be federated for the amazing work of the amazing people in the fediverse.

One of my fav photos from #fosdem2026

Sweater by @_elena, photo by @sturmsucht

#activitypub #fediverse


Our official website is now live!

webintents.net

#WebIntents #Fediverse #ActivityPub


If decentralization is the future of social media, where millions or even billions of people share knowledge, then we can learn a lot from how the Open Knowledge Foundation (@okfn) and the Wikimedia Foundation (@wikimediafoundation) built cross-border, international movements with clear missions.

These two organizations are just two examples, but they demonstrate an important point: decentralization worked because communities were intentionally nurtured, not just because the technology was open.

The Fediverse, powered by the ActivityPub protocol, already has the technical capacity to thrive (UI tweaks aside).

What we still lack is the decentralization of communities, including shared ownership, coordination, and a mission that extends beyond individual instances.

Cc @eloquence @bjoernsta @_elena

#Fediverse #ActivityPub #Openknowledge #Wikimedia #Decentralization #SocialMedia


Having some silly fun with @stegodon a new fediverse platform with an SSH TUI interface. The first screenshot is the web profile, the second is the TUI interface.

This is the first command line UI for ActivityPub client I've seen that has an actual backend server platform tied to it.

#ActivityPub #Fediverse


We are entering a new step in the development of #Holos and we need more people to test.
We have reopened subscriptions through the app: holos.social/signup

We wrote a page explaining how we implemented #E2EE DMs over #ActivityPub: holos.social/e2ee

Don't hesitate to contribute and share your feedback with us. Thank you.

#HolosSocial


Emissary along with @Bonfire and @swf are working on #MLS based e2ee messaging over #ActivityPub supported by Sovereign Tech Fund


First talk today at the Social Web Devroom we have @pfefferle talking about the state of WordPress's fediverse integration
#FOSDEM #ActivityPub #fedidev


@MxSpoon "Account portability is a major reason why we chose to build a separate protocol"

"I think it’d have been a difficult collaboration if we chose to use AP, especially since we weren’t willing to compromise on some of the decisions"

github.com/bluesky-social/atpr…

I think one way or the other they want
a) to monetize it
b) to control it

That's why AP wouldn't suffice. Tech reasoning is just word salad. They could have helped W3C and AP but chose not to.

#ActivityPub #ATProto #Bluesky


ActivityPub, the protocol that powers much of the fediverse and allows the various fediverse platforms and servers to talk to each other, has become an official W3C standard 8 years ago!

w3.org/news/2018/activitypub-i…

#fediverse #activitypub #standards #OpenWeb #W3C #anniversary #OTD #OnThisDay


The most popular fediverse platforms are not American.

That's awesome. Together we're proving that a world of thriving alternatives exist beyond the USA.

We need to embrace that.

So I started MadeInCanada.social for my fellow Canadians.

Let's show the world how magical #ActivityPub is πŸš€


πŸƒβ€β™‚οΈ Building #OpenPace - federated activity tracking for the Fediverse

Think Strava, but:
βœ… Federates with Mastodon
βœ… Self-hosted
βœ… Your data, your rules
βœ… Apache licensed

Thanks @javahippie for the inspiration!

πŸ› οΈ Java + Quarkus + Vert.x + ActivityPub
🌐 open-pace.com
πŸ’» github.com/myfear/open-pace

Post a run β†’ friends on Mastodon see it
Own your miles, share your journey

Contributions welcome. Let's build in the open!

#ActivityPub #Fediverse #OpenSource #Running


#ActivityPub is getting its first formal update path since 2018. I wrote about why this matters, how this leads to some strange and funny power dynamics, and about who actually participate

connectedplaces.online/reports…


ActivityPub standardization is back! The #W3C just announced a new Working Group to evolve #ActivityPub and #ActivityStream and related standards! This is extremely good news. It's not like all the world's federated social media protocol problems were already solved! lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/p…

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