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"For some reason, the most vocal Christians among us never mention the Beatitudes. But, often with tears in their eyes, they demand that the Ten Commandments be posted in public buildings. And of course, that's Moses, not Jesus. I haven't heard one of them demand that the Sermon on the Mount, the Beatitudes, be posted anywhere. 'Blessed are the merciful' in a courtroom? 'Blessed are the peacemakers' in the Pentagon? Give me a break!"

~ Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without a Country
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in reply to 🍑 😈

i do not see myself as a christian. i was raised catholic, but the closest i've come to a chosen christian practice is attending quaker meeting for several scattered years in my 20s and 30s.
but i have actually read the bible. and the cherry-picking hypocrisy of "christians" never fails to piss me off. it's been said here before: do more Matthew.
the Beatitudes are Matthew 5.
see also Matthew 6:19-24; 7:1,21; 11:28.
<end of rant>
i was offline most of yesterday. probably will be today, too. ✌🏻
in reply to 🍑 😈

I have often wondered if the really heavy trend since really the 80s of pushing the Ten Commandments follows with the Christian right's trend towards more Old Testament fire and brimstone than New Testament actual Jesus teachings. I'd like somebody who knows theology better than me to chime in on that at some point.
in reply to Bill

I imagine a big part of that religion-in-society picture is the neverending jousting between different sects of Christianity, Catholic vs protestant being the most obvious on the large scale.

There's a lot of interesting nuance and implications for organization of society at large--including non-religious aspects--in there.

If you're familiar with the cathedral vs bazaar allegory, same thing. There's a strong analogy between someone doing their own research to find the OT passages to support their priors and someone doing their own research in medicine, both ignoring what experts have to say.

I'd say this isn't so much about a Christian right trend as much as a trend in society as a whole.

@peachfiend

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in reply to volkris

@volkris @Sempf
I have often been aware of the amount of power and authority that low-standing christians cloak themselves with, when they decide to pontificate on "what God said".

You can be sure that they wouldn't DARE say to their pastor what they say to you.

He would dismiss their role in saying "what god said" as being the pride of a sinner.

But to you and me, these wanna-be's will be eager to try out whatever clever new sophistry they recently arrived at. It's all a game to some of them. And a matter of ego threat, to the rest.

in reply to Chris Real

Meh, I've known plenty of Christians who ABSOLUTELY say to their pastors what they say to you. Heck, I've known some that were so bold that they left to start their own congregations over disagreements with their pastors.

Christians and their pastors dismissing each other isn't even rare where I come from.

(I personally think it's a sad case of confirmation bias--only tell me what I want to hear, preacherman)

But in the end, these folks may cloak themselves with authority, but that's not a cloak anyone else has to respect. Let them cosplay significance.

@Sempf @peachfiend