PieFedeology - Ideological Purity in PieFed
PieFed has done it once again, this time adding 'warning' labels for opposing ideological perspectives, well at least one; Can't find any warnings for fascism or capitalism 🤔
This can be demonstrated here: piefed.social/c/globalnews/p/1…
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davel
in reply to Loco_Mex • • •I think Rimu has tied this warning to the peoplesdispatch.org domain. I think this is a custom thing he did to his instance, because I didn’t find it in the PieFed codebase. ~~[ETA: it is in the codebase, in a separate repo].~~ [ETA: I’m told that no specific site warnings are baked into the code, just the feature is. For site blocks, there is an optional default list of domains, which I’m told contains only far-right/fascist sites.]
I don’t think People’s Dispatch is even Marxist-Leninist. I think it’s an international anti-imperialist media site. But I wouldn’t assume Rimu could explain the difference or care that there is one. Maybe all anti-imperialists are tankies to him.
Goferking0
in reply to davel • • •mathemachristian [he/him]
in reply to davel • • •The blocked domains are, the ones with a warning like in the screenshot are configured on a per-instance basis
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Rimu
in reply to Loco_Mex • • •I'm happy to explain. You could have just asked, though.
During initial installation PieFed downloads a big list of 3000 right-wing domains from github.com/rimu/no-qanon and blocks them all. Admins can unblock them if they want but they would need to do them individually so I bet none do.
The list includes things like fox news, breitbart, etc. Before starting work on PieFed I spent 3? years studying right wing disinformation - qanon, antivax, all that and that blocklist is an output from that. Every site on that list was reviewed personally.
So.
Additionally, I have manually added these warnings (not blocks) onto some domains, for piefed.social only. You can download a list of those warnings from join.piefed.social/wp-content/…
Most of them are tabloids, AI slop farms and a handful are authoritarian government mouthpieces.
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... Show more...I'm happy to explain. You could have just asked, though.
During initial installation PieFed downloads a big list of 3000 right-wing domains from github.com/rimu/no-qanon and blocks them all. Admins can unblock them if they want but they would need to do them individually so I bet none do.
The list includes things like fox news, breitbart, etc. Before starting work on PieFed I spent 3? years studying right wing disinformation - qanon, antivax, all that and that blocklist is an output from that. Every site on that list was reviewed personally.
So.
Additionally, I have manually added these warnings (not blocks) onto some domains, for piefed.social only. You can download a list of those warnings from join.piefed.social/wp-content/…
Most of them are tabloids, AI slop farms and a handful are authoritarian government mouthpieces.
So there's 3000 right wing sites that simply can't be linked to and 47 sites with warnings, about 10% of which are left wing. There's no need to warn for fascism because posts that link to them are not displayed in the first place.
There's an ideological slant to PieFed for sure, and it's very much in favor of the left. That could be why maga.place and lemmychan.org use Lemmy and not PieFed.
I'll take another look at peoplesdispatch and see if there's a less triggering warnings I can put on it.
GitHub - rimu/no-qanon: A blocklist for QAnon, conspiracy, fake news, nazi websites.
GitHubdb0
in reply to Rimu • • •Oh they could have asked, could they? Like you asked before spreading disinfo about our instance using GenAI for moderation?
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Blaze
in reply to db0 • • •Are we supposed to bring back the whole history every time Rimu comments anywhere?
Now, listen, db0: we've discussed a lot in the past, you know I l
... Show more...Are we supposed to bring back the whole history every time Rimu comments anywhere?
Now, listen, db0: we've discussed a lot in the past, you know I like what you do, I support you and your instance most of the time. But that's also true for Rimu and Piefed. I think it's pointless to try to count points and see who was wrong when by how much. From my perspective, there were issues from all sides during that whole story.
Bringing it up every time anyone involved comments somewhere doesn't seem relevant, and will just start another round of "you were wrong", "I was wrong because you were wrong" etc. It can be endless, and most of the people are tired of that whole story.
Take care.
db0
in reply to Blaze • • •When he's being hypocritical AF about people "could have just asked", then yes I think I will.
Talk about underplaying the situation...
Rimu spread purposeful disinfo. He never "just asked". He ignored comments from our admins explicitly telling him he's wrong, because it went against his narrative. Was purposefully uncharitable so he could spin it as badly as possible. Crossposted to Mastodon in an attempt to initiate a pile-on. I could go on...
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luciferofastora
in reply to db0 • • •Idk, sounds to me like you're equally ignoring comments from other parties telling you you're wrong because it goes against your narrative too. "We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing" is hardly an argument.
That's why this is a slugfest: "You're wrong! "No, you're wrong!" "No, we told you you're wrong!" "Your telling me that I was wrong was also wrong!"
Reasserting conflicting claims like they're facts isn't worth jack shit.
Loco_Mex
in reply to luciferofastora • • •Except they acted accountably and made efforts to fix the other sides grievances even if they didn’t agree.
Something that has not been returned and has only been met with increasing hostility.
luciferofastora
in reply to Loco_Mex • • •I admit I don't know the whole story. I don't know what evidence was produced to support the LLM claim and what efforts were made.
The few comments I read here seemed like some attempt to reconcile were made but fell apart. I can't and don't want to point fingers one way or the other, personal bias notwithstanding.
I just wanted to point out "he said something even though we said it's wrong" isn't a particularly strong argument. That's just one party's word against the other's.
db0
in reply to Blaze • • •Also:
We have bent over backwards to de-escalate the situation, both with L.W. and with Rimu. Our admins have stepped down. People changed their usernames. Our admins overruled our mods. Literally creating tension within our instance to maintain relations with the larger fediverse. On the other hand, rimu's deliberate disinfo is still up to this day, without any statements from our team, or correction to their blatant lies. They've even blocked people calling them out, so piefed users can't see this criticism. So don't try to "both sides" me.
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mathemachristian [he/him]
in reply to Blaze • • •If you're going for the whole history don't forget the nazi smear by some german troll and rimu trying to paint db0 as uniquely ban-happy. Like this has been a busy 10 days or so with shots fired on the FAF day-after-day, this is not history yet but an ongoing barrage from their POV. Also
there was no LLM moderation, and rimu knew this before making his post^[https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/42212552/20361800]
AI-assisted moderation in the fediverse is happening. Now what? - Blåhaj Lemmy
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lumpenproletariat
in reply to Blaze • • •Yes, until he fucking relents.
Rimu started shit and he needs to make amends.
Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
in reply to Blaze • • •Until Rimu stops acting like this and learns better, yeah.
Goferking0
in reply to Eugene V. Debs' Ghost • • •Plus there's rimu trying to tie lemmy as right wing (to maga and 4chan clones) because they used it as a platform...
Actually rimu is perfect fit with the lemmy.world admins and mods. Try to do the but are just incredibly terrible at messaging.
ZombiFrancis
in reply to Blaze • • •The omissions in this timeline about brigading sockpuppets and falsified nazi smears...
But to list that timeline and act as though this is out of context or unrelated to an ongoing crashout... we are reaching some Hasan's dog collar level of bullshit.
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in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •This is genuinely so funny. As is typical, most of the well-sourced comments you make never receive anything rigorous in return, and they can't even claim trolling/harassing/AI/bot or anything because your comments are always cool-headed and respectful.
So I guess the best retort is to just completely hide your comments from their users? Lest they become curious and actually consider reading a book or an article?
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in reply to mathemachristian [he/him] • • •|url|reason|
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| aa.com.tr | Turkish state media |
| adele.pages.casa | LLM-generated posts |
| bild.de | A tabloid that has been unfavourably compared to The Sun, and is considered generally unreliable. |
| browsergate.eu | AI slop |
| caixinglobal.com | LLM-generated posts |
| chainalysis.com | LLM-generated posts |
| coindesk.com | Crypto boosters |
| counterpunch.org | Not always reliable. |
| dailysabah.com | Turkey govt properganda |
| dailystar.co.uk | Tabloid |
| electronicintifada.net | Unreliable source |
| english.news.cn | Ok except about anything to do with China |
| eurasiantimes.com | Unreliable source |
| forbes.com | Anyone can write a forbes article. Check the byline to determine whether an article is written by a "Forbes Staff" member, "Contributor", "Senior Contributor", or "Subscriber". |
| fullstackpm.tech | slop |
| gbnews.com | Unreliable source |
| hispantv.com | Unreliable source |
| houseofsaud.com | AI-written posts |
| journal-neo.su | Russian... Show more...
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| aa.com.tr | Turkish state media |
| adele.pages.casa | LLM-generated posts |
| bild.de | A tabloid that has been unfavourably compared to The Sun, and is considered generally unreliable. |
| browsergate.eu | AI slop |
| caixinglobal.com | LLM-generated posts |
| chainalysis.com | LLM-generated posts |
| coindesk.com | Crypto boosters |
| counterpunch.org | Not always reliable. |
| dailysabah.com | Turkey govt properganda |
| dailystar.co.uk | Tabloid |
| electronicintifada.net | Unreliable source |
| english.news.cn | Ok except about anything to do with China |
| eurasiantimes.com | Unreliable source |
| forbes.com | Anyone can write a forbes article. Check the byline to determine whether an article is written by a "Forbes Staff" member, "Contributor", "Senior Contributor", or "Subscriber". |
| fullstackpm.tech | slop |
| gbnews.com | Unreliable source |
| hispantv.com | Unreliable source |
| houseofsaud.com | AI-written posts |
| journal-neo.su | Russian propaganda outlet |
| marathonhandbook.com | AI |
| metro.co.uk | Unreliable source |
| ndtv.com | Modi propaganda. Check MBFC |
| nerds.xyz | AI-written articles |
| news.cgtn.com | Chinese govt propaganda source |
| newsus.cgtn.com | Chinese govt propaganda source |
| nycjournals.com | fake news |
| nypost.com | Unreliable source |
| peoplesdispatch.org | Promotes Marxist-Leninist perspectives |
| plenglish.com | Cuba state media |
| presstv.ir | Iranian state tv |
| rawstory.com | Often inflammitory and kinda biased |
| republicworld.com | Unreliable source |
| sixthtone.com | Singapore govt source |
| tasnimnews.com | Iranian state tv |
| techtimes.com | LLM-generated posts |
| techtrenches.dev | LLM-generated posts |
| telesurenglish.net | Propaganda news channel directly sponsored by the governments of Venezuela and Cuba |
| telesurtv.net | Bolivarian propaganda outlet |
| thatprivacyguy.com | LLM-generated posts |
| theamericanconservative.com | A self-identified "opinionated source" whose factual accuracy has been questioned |
| theintercept.com | |
| the-sun.com | Trash tabloid |
| united24media.com | Factual, but still state-aligned advocacy journalism |
| vgchartz.com | Unreliable source |
| wheresyoured.at | The author of this blog works for AI companies baldurbjarnason.com/2025/use-t… |
| writings.hongminhee.org | LLM generated posts |
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in reply to Goferking0 • • •Who knows? Only Rimu. Maybe because they blew up the Paper of Record’s disinformation piece that manufactured consent for genocide.
Edit to add (and mentioned recently):
Disputing genocide accusations that the imperial core flings on its enemies, though, that’s his “red line.”
mathemachristian [he/him]
in reply to Rimu • • •Apparently piefed smuggles in domains from a completely different repo that clearly isn't just "right-wing domains"^[https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon/blob/master/sources/Fake%20news/README.md] and it requires an admin to unblock them all individually.
so it is a personal semi-hardcoded blocklist, that requires an admin to go through and re-vet every site individually to see if they agree with your assessment or not.
lol. lmao even, you put a warning on electronicintifada.net like come on now
no-qanon/sources/Fake news/README.md at master · rimu/no-qanon
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rimu
in reply to mathemachristian [he/him] • • •It's not smuggled, during initial setup when installing the blocklist it prints this on the screen:
Added 'No-QAnon' blocklist, see https://github.com/rimu/no-qanonmathemachristian [he/him]
in reply to rimu • • •fiat_lux
in reply to rimu • • •If I saw this, I would not assume that Gawker, WikiLeaks, or FOX Weather would be included in a blocklist called "No-QAnon". The list itself might not be smuggled, but it's not accurately representing itself either. If it has simply evolved over time, then it needs to be renamed or split into separate blocklists.
Additionally, if someone installing this changes their mind or realizes that what they received is not what they expected, then requiring them to either directly modify the database or click "remove" over 3000 times is arguably a dark pattern.
Allero
in reply to Rimu • • •To clarify: you say that by default all PieFed instances don't even allow to link resources considered "right-wing", without an easy way to disable such anti-feature?
If so, it's basically a centralized point for censorship in a decentralized system, which is very antithetical to the spirit of the Fediverse and is something even the very left Lemmy devs prefer to avoid. I see it being very detrimental in its own right.
Shouldn't it be an offered setting instead? Like, "if you want your instance to avoid certain topics, here are filter lists to freely enable or disable"?
Much can be said about the definition of left and the way Marxists you are addressing don't see "liberal" as "left" to begin with.
What matters, though, is that you end up projecting a certain personal, even if somewhat educated, bias onto both PieFed as a project (banning right-wing outlets from even being linked to, globally), and the flagship instance (making warnings about Marxist-inclined outlets). This is very unwelcome for many, myself included, and, as previously mentioned, antitheti
... Show more...To clarify: you say that by default all PieFed instances don't even allow to link resources considered "right-wing", without an easy way to disable such anti-feature?
If so, it's basically a centralized point for censorship in a decentralized system, which is very antithetical to the spirit of the Fediverse and is something even the very left Lemmy devs prefer to avoid. I see it being very detrimental in its own right.
Shouldn't it be an offered setting instead? Like, "if you want your instance to avoid certain topics, here are filter lists to freely enable or disable"?
Much can be said about the definition of left and the way Marxists you are addressing don't see "liberal" as "left" to begin with.
What matters, though, is that you end up projecting a certain personal, even if somewhat educated, bias onto both PieFed as a project (banning right-wing outlets from even being linked to, globally), and the flagship instance (making warnings about Marxist-inclined outlets). This is very unwelcome for many, myself included, and, as previously mentioned, antithetical to what Fediverse is and what it stands for.
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Rimu
in reply to Allero • • •It depends on your definition of easy. Here is the admin UI for unbanning domains.
Also they can go into the database and empty the
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Rimu
in reply to Allero • • •I don't believe software can be neutral. By making banning them equally easy as not, we're saying that those choices are of equal worth - doing that is taking a side and it's the side of giving fascists an easier way in. Nope! That's how Mastodon gets forked into Truth Social.
Interesting how this thread started out about me being too right wing and now for other people it's about me being too left wing. Heh.
Can't please everyone and I'm not trying to.
Allero
in reply to Rimu • • •It's not about that, really. You'll always be too left for some and too right for others. The problem is a single person, regardless of their views, policing what others get to see or not to see, on all instances, globally.
Decentralization of power is the name of the game for the Fediverse - that's why most people are here in the first place. They escaped Reddit, with its sweeping bans over the "wrong" opinions. They escaped Xitter, with a megalomaniac policing what everyone can say. They are tired of this, they don't need this, they despise this.
You are the developer of a leading Threadiverse software. You contribute heavily to this world, and your decisions affect not only your project - they ripple through the whole thing. With an open heart, I call you to be open with the community you serve, and to give them what they need - open choice. Stripping them of that undermines trust in Threadi
... Show more...It's not about that, really. You'll always be too left for some and too right for others. The problem is a single person, regardless of their views, policing what others get to see or not to see, on all instances, globally.
Decentralization of power is the name of the game for the Fediverse - that's why most people are here in the first place. They escaped Reddit, with its sweeping bans over the "wrong" opinions. They escaped Xitter, with a megalomaniac policing what everyone can say. They are tired of this, they don't need this, they despise this.
You are the developer of a leading Threadiverse software. You contribute heavily to this world, and your decisions affect not only your project - they ripple through the whole thing. With an open heart, I call you to be open with the community you serve, and to give them what they need - open choice. Stripping them of that undermines trust in Threadiverse, tramples the spirit of freedom and tinkering, and brings drama and division instead.
If you are genuinely concerned about right-wing folks stepping in to destroy the Threadiverse - look around. Lemmy, Mbin have no guardrails, they are open to everyone - and yet, the whole right wing is like two obscure instances, barely known or accessible. Instance admins take great care to curate their instances and purge such spaces, and users double this. The very nature of Threadiverse - a place for the people - makes the very people you align with gravitate towards it. And they know full well what worth there is in each choice.
The reason the decisions of yours got so much resonance is exactly because people care. They care about PieFed, and, at the same time, they care about Threadiverse. They enjoy your work, and it brings unique developments not seen elsewhere. But if it keeps on these rails, as an ideological and opinionated project, it risks falling out of favor and into obscurity. None of us want that, and so, we call again: please, open PieFed for choice. You may suggest blocklists, even offer them as default - just don't bake them in and make a clear option for opt-out. Recognize some people need to make this choice. Hopefully, you trust your very own community to do what's right.
Rimu
in reply to Allero • • •Allero
in reply to Rimu • • •Jesus, some folks so revved up they can't stop brigading :D
Thank you!
Aria
in reply to Rimu • • •So ignoring the censorship aspect entirely: Admins are asked if they wish to block right wing domains, and then if they say yes, the software blocks (some right wing domains and) left wing investigative journalism sites like The Gray Zone. Russian news sites like RT, Sputnik and TASS, Harry Potter related sites, all of Telegram, vk.com (Russian-language social media site), Video hosts like Peertube and Rumble.
Is the whole reason you made this list so you could sneak in some personal vendettas? Also pretty suspicious that the BBC isn't on there. Or CNN. Or WaPo. Or Ynet. Or Mako. Or Times of Israel. Or DW. Given the era we live in, and their complicity in genocide, surely that'd be a higher priority than almost any other website if you're aiming to block harmful news sites with right wing editorial lines.
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FreedomAdvocate
in reply to Rimu • • •“There’s and ideological slant to PieFed for sure”
Slant?!?! It’s a giant goddamn left-wing circle jerk propaganda machine 🤣
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in reply to Rimu • • •PieFed bakes in preferences against left wing groups, and you've been launching a crusade against anarchist instances lately. As much as you believe yourself to be left, you've done your best to left-punch wherever you can, and have unilaterally made decisions greatly impacting the functionality of PieFed to suit your overwhelmingly liberal views. This isn't even getting into how you agree with racist conspiracy theories like the idea that China is kidnapping people for organ harvesting.
Also, it's nice that you admit that PieFed has an ideological slant and that you do develop PieFed with that in mind, socsa swore up and down that that wasn't the case for some reason.
Also, since Rimu permabanned me from Piefed.social at PugJesus' behest after I critiqued PJ's views from the left, they won't see my comment, sadly.
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in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •It's also very telling they named it noqanon.
While sounds great weird that would trigger ml warnings as no one would consider qanon that
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poVoq
in reply to Goferking0 • • •The noqanon list and the OP warning sign are two different things.
The first is a default url blocklist that gets pulled on first start of a Piefed instance and which contains extreme right-wing and mis-information outlets.
The domain warning sign mentioned in OP is a separate list only manually added to the piefed.social flagship instance.
Goferking0
in reply to poVoq • • •This gets back to how poorly designed piefed is and rimus explanations.
The domain block list having more than qanon and being part of the install while not saying anything about what it actually brings in is poor design choice. Along with it apparently only being disabled by individually checking the list in the ui.
Rimu made it sound like they were connected in the qanon repo
Unruffled [they/them]
in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •To heap insult on top of injury, Rimu has now unilaterally, and without any notification (to anyone it would appear), chosen to silently suppress anarchist.nexus and quokk.au from appearing in the PieFed.Social instance chooser. So, just more of the same old trolling and drama farming from him that we have been getting for weeks now.
vs
Which server do you want to join?
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in reply to Unruffled [they/them] • • •pughitler is a mod on piefed.social and nobody seems to care about his abusive behavior.
rimu gets temporarily banned for 'emulating a zionist' and now suddenly it's a priority to address moderator abuse... via censorship
incredible
Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
in reply to Diva (she/her) • • •Don't you dare call out his actions, but he'll gladly smear you over his private kingdoms where you can't defend yourself.
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in reply to Rimu • • •Cute, but not enough, not by a mile. Calling Piefed "left-leaning" is a LARP at best.
You’re treating these neoliberal interpretations of bias as some sort of intellectual debate to "inform" folks, instead of the existential threat it is to the nature of online discourse.
Sure, left-wing discussions are "allowed" as long as they wear their scarlet letter and stay in the ghetto where we put them.
Guess some of it rubbed off.
TanteRegenbogen
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in reply to Loco_Mex • • •All the bullshit they say about silencing and 1984 is as always, a classic case of projection.
Please enlighten us on where we should be getting the full objective unbiased reality from, the New York Times maybe?
God forbid a media takes a pro working class / global south bias instead of the usual neoliberal status quo ideology.
Call them out on it and they'll deny they even follow any ideology, they're just being Objective™.
AzuraTheSpellkissed
in reply to Loco_Mex • • •Are you sure this is a "warning"? /s
Sounds like an indicator of quality, instead. Even the icon is in red, the color of hope.
Rimu
in reply to AzuraTheSpellkissed • • •This is a strong and succinct argument, cheers.
We need peoplesdispatch.org I think it's valuable thing to have a take on events from their angle. Yet it needs to be read with an understanding that they have an angle. Using the warning icon to provide that understanding is clunky and wasn't really intended for that purpose. There has been some drift in the usage away from the original idea behind the feature.
One day it might be good to have a different icon for providing context, separate from providing warnings.
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in reply to Loco_Mex • • •Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
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in reply to mrdown • • •Unsurprisingly not currently. Based on current behavior and responses doubtful in future
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2026-05-08 11:34:28
Unsurprisingly not currently. Based on current behavior and responses doubtful in future
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in reply to GuyIncognito • • •Then Lemmy, Kbin, Mbin, Mastodon, Friendica, Misskey, Bookwyrm, Pixelfed, Loops, Peertube, all made from disparate developers from around the world, are all one US Federal plot?
Why would they prefer a decentralized, difficult to control social media network over the centralized ones that are already entirely under the control of right-wing billionaires?
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in reply to ProdigalFrog • • •No one said they prefer it, but they’re also not going to ignore it, because they want to maintain their dominance of the public discourse. Previously. Previously. Previously.
Though with that said, I doubt PieFed is an op. Some people are so propagandized that they’ll do the work for free and without any direct involvement. Some people are just that “patriotic”.1
GuyIncognito
in reply to ProdigalFrog • • •Controlled opposition of course. The prevailing ideology can reinforce and sustain itself anywhere, even in a completely decentralized media environment. Dissenting opinions can be safely relegated to smaller venues while liberal orthodoxy prevails in the more visible ones. Thus, reddit is recreated.
However, don't read too far into this, I was basically just making a joke about how "piefed" has "fed" in it.
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