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Remember folks, it’s not “genocide”, it’s “genocide libel”.

Report and block for genocide denial, please and thank you.

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Screenshot of Mastodon reply: cixi @clxi@glasgow.social 2m @aral The origins of the GENOCIDE LIBEL Nazi-Islamist (1930s-1940s): The genocide libel is seeded when European antisemitism-especially Nazism-is adapted in parts of the Arab world during the late Mandate period. Nazi-Arab propaganda recasts a continuous Jewish presence and the return of Jewish refugees to their ancestral homeland as a nefarious, conspiratorial project imposed by Western powers and aimed at destroying Arab society. Soviet (1960s-1980s): After 1967, the Soviet Union formalizes this narrative through state propaganda, recoding older anti-Jewish tropes in Marxist-Leninist language. It defines "Zionism" as colonial, racist, and fascist, and inverts Holocaust memory to cast Jews as "Nazis." Through UN forums and later the Durban process, this template enters global antiracist and "human rights" discourse, detached from events and normalized beyond the Cold War. Western (2000s-present): Western academics and activists advance the genocide libel by redefining genocide through settler-colonial theory, drawing on Australian white-guilt discourse. They shift genocide from a crime requiring intent into a presumed structural condition. Applied to Israel, this recasts "Zionism" as inherently genocidal, turning genocide into a standing moral verdict that long predates October 7, with wars serving only to reaffirm an assumed conclusion.
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Schrödinger's Prat
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What’s with that third paragraph of word salad? Most of us are still using the "killing a fuckton of people" definition because it works petty well.
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flo
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@Rhodium103 What you are missing is that intend is a crucial part of the official definition of genocide. This is because the Western powers had a say in said definition and they made sure that it fits the Nazi Genocide but not the atrocities done by them.
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@floS Not even disagreeing. The requirement of intent is insidious af, on account of being inherently hard to prove.

That point is moot though in the case of SSrael under Hitlanyahu. Here, it's clear as day since Benjadolf himself, Ben Gvir, and a whole bunch of other Likud Zionazi psychopaths have proudly screamed their intent of total annihilation into the cameras and microphones of the Knesset and their own state media. They are on every record there is. MFers can't even claim they didn't mean to, that gaslighting pos fig leaf came off a long time ago.

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@ulfr @Rhodium103 They indent to get the land, not kill the ethnicity. Also they hate the ethnicity and like killing them but that's unrelated. They are indifferent about it and that's enough (plausible) deniability.

But my actual stand is that talking about genocide gives the other side the opportunity to flee into semantic debates (like this one, sorry). Talking about settler colonialism and the Nakba and death counts, ... is the better way.

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Aral Balkan
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@floS @ulfr @Rhodium103 Any genocide scholar worth their salt has declared it a genocide. The UN has declared it a genocide. There is no debate. It is genocide. The only people denying it are the ones carrying it out and those complicit in it.
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@ulfr @Rhodium103 To be clear, I agree that it's an ongoing genocide that started before the Nakba. My point is that discussions about genocide are inherently semantic and distracting. You're talking about scholars, most of which white I assume, and Western institutions. Are these the people who should control the narrative? I could ask about their credentials and we are far astray from the reality on the ground. Talking about settler colonialism, leads to another conversational path.
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zionism was not "recast".
It's intentionally völkisch-national and from the very start they wanted to create a country and replace whomever was already living there.

The delusion some people have...

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