People are actually on BlueSky
There's now a decent measurement of #bluesky user numbers (https://bskycharts.edavis.dev/edavis.dev/bskycharts.edavis.dev/bsky_users_total.html) ...
They've got about 1.6M MAUs ...
& 0.8M Weekly unique users & 0.340M Daily.
That's not nothing!
Roughly double mastodon and 60% more than the whole fediverse (by MAUs, see fedidb.org).
Bluesky is quite "international" with large Japanese and Brazilian popltns, and there's real attrition happening IMO.
Still, let the protocol wars begin I suppose?
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Anders Eknert
in reply to maegul • • •maegul
in reply to Anders Eknert • • •LOL ... yea plenty right.
Anders Eknert
in reply to maegul • • •😄
I do wish for the Fediverse to grow though, and to include more groups from all over the world. But I feel done with corporate social media, regardless of their MAUs.
maegul
in reply to Anders Eknert • • •@anderseknert
Fair (kinda the simple explanation why I'm anti-threads-federation).
While I'm no BlueSky-stan, the idea/promise of the system is a hybrid, which I think is generally worthwhile (especially while things like twitter and threads *dominate*) but also interesting.
How hybridised it becomes (and can become) is the question though with *big* outstanding questions.
Loukas Christodoulou
in reply to maegul • • •maegul
in reply to Loukas Christodoulou • • •@Loukas
Comparatively, it's definitely a lot more into shitposting vibes, for sure.
I think their biggest problem right now is they don't have good community self-organising features (nor masto, but the boost culture corrects for that IMO), so those who want more serious sub-cultures aren't getting much footing (and may never).
Feeds are interesting but not very fruitful IMO and hashtags are new, so it's a bit flat community-wise there, and many users are "wait & see" I suspect.
Loukas Christodoulou
in reply to maegul • • •The lack of community tools might be the biggest technical gap, but the real problem is a lack of communities who want to use either.
Because of this, I think both Mastodon and BlueSky have hit their highwater marks under current conditions and no technical changes can alter that.
A million each is enough to survive and stagnate but it doesn't enable growth. Only some major antitrust action against Meta by EU could do that :)
maegul
in reply to Loukas Christodoulou • • •@Loukas
Agreed (and said the same myself)!
As I've said it ... alternative social has run its course in this post-musk-twitter moment. Everyone's settled down where they ended up.
And yea, either more major disruption or some new killer features (rather than clones of big social) will be needed to shake things up. Neither seem particularly likely in the short term ... your EU-meta smackdown is probably the best bet??
MikeK
in reply to maegul • • •So none of you thinks the Threads / Activity Pub thing will have an impact?
My personal opinion is that its a strategic move to avoid regulation by being able to claim they are open.
#threads #activitypub
Loukas Christodoulou
in reply to MikeK • • •MikeK
in reply to Loukas Christodoulou • • •Why pyrrhic? Genuine question.
Loukas Christodoulou
in reply to MikeK • • •MikeK
in reply to Loukas Christodoulou • • •I may be an optimist, but maybe adoption of AP will help reduce the worst of social media monopolies, and the "our" Fediverse culture is always going to be a minority taste, which is possibly OK.
Loukas Christodoulou
in reply to MikeK • • •Dame
in reply to Loukas Christodoulou • • •Ademir
in reply to maegul • • •Bluesky is twitter. All the issues we have with X now are bound to happen with bluesky when it gets relevant.
The fediverse is the only viable alternative.
lil
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in reply to lil • • •Highalectical
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in reply to Highalectical • • •Corgana
in reply to Dame • • •Dame
in reply to Corgana • • •People would run their own PDS for a couple of reasons, build their own communities, host their own data, their own moderation practices & policies, and maybe they don’t want the “big world” view
https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/22/bluesky-opens-up-federation-letting-anyone-run-their-own-server/amp/
https://bsky.social/about/blog/02-22-2024-open-social-web
Bluesky: An Open Social Web - Bluesky
BlueskyCorgana
in reply to Dame • • •Handles
in reply to Highalectical • • •Well, yeah. There are a few interoperable protocols but activitypub is certainly the major mover and shaker. Friendica and Diaspora doggedly stick to their own protocols afaik but they manage to still federate to the larger fediverse.
drkt
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