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"Vance is on the ticket of the only former president who, before our own eyes, tried to kneecap democracy to hold on to power.

That is disqualifying for anyone seeking to be first in the line of succession. Yet it seems that very important fact was lost amid the postdebate discourse that focused on the more polished nature of Vance’s answers over Walz’s.

~ Kimberly Atkins Stohr

#Trump #JDVance #Republicans #lies #disinformation #BigLie #Jan6
/5

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/10/02/opinion/vice-presidential-debate-vance-trump-walz/


"Last night, we saw a 90-minute infomercial for normalizing Nazis.

I don’t use the word lightly, I use it precisely. Nothing neo about the criminal gang trying to take over America. They’re using a cruel and effective fascist playbook that I have documented on these pages in depth and with receipts."

~ Heidi Siegmund Cuda

#Trump #JDVance #Republicans #lies #disinformation #BigLie #Jan6
/4

https://www.bettedangerous.com/p/who-goes-nazi-an-83-year-old-prediction


"Well, here we have the GOP members of the State using their power to shield the truth from the people since that is 'the mortal enemy of the lie.'”

#Trump #JDVance #Republicans #lies #disinformation #BigLie #Jan6
/3


"[When Republicans threaten media for telling the truth] is also right from the rules of Nazi propaganda that instruct people in power, 'The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie.'”

~ Dean`Obediallah

#Trump #JDVance #Republicans #lies #disinformation #BigLie #Jan6
/2

https://deanobeidallah.substack.com/p/jd-vance-getting-angry-over-being


"It was all a lie.

One hundred and forty police officers assaulted, close to $3 million in damage, close to 1,200 people charged, more than 450 serving prison sentences, a poisonous political movement taking root, and voter suppression laws…all because Trump couldn’t bear to have lost an election.

'Post-truth politics' has real-world repercussions."

~ Heather Cox Richardson

#Trump #JDVance #Republicans #lies #disinformation #BigLie #Jan6
/1

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/october-2-2024


"Vance has been anointed by Thiel and the rest of the anti-democracy movement as the post-Trump president, tasked with replacing the American establishment with an authoritarian regime."

~ Robert Reich

#Trump #JDVance #Republicans #lies #disinformation #BigLie #Jan6 #authoritarianism #democracy
/6

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/03/jd-vance-anti-democracy-movement-leader


But when the #debate turned, near its final frames, to the subject of the 2020 election, #Vance faced a choice: He could validate, once more, #Trump’s relentless #lies about his defeat 4 yrs ago. Or he could try something else in the spirit of moving forward.

It did not seem like a difficult decision for him.

#FactCheck #VanceLies #VPdebate #disinformation #propaganda #trumpaganda
#honesty #integrity #democracy #VoteBlue #HarrisWalz2024


Among the #lies #Trump running mate #JDVance told over the course of the #VPdebate w/ Governor #TimWalz, denying his support for a national #AbortionBan may haunt him the longest because it is so easily disproven. Rachel #Maddow shares #Vance's own words contradicting his claims at the #debate, & discusses w/MSNBC colleagues.

#FactCheck #VanceLies #VPdebate #disinformation #propaganda #trumpaganda

#honesty #integrity #democracy
#ReproductiveRights
#HarrisWalz2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMEkEo1ak68


"He offered ludicrous non-answers on housing and climate change. And all of those lies and nonsense helped prop up his broader gaslight-narrative goal."

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/10


"The moments from this debate that are going to resonate were all JD Vance errors.

Walz, just nailing the moment, interjected 'that’s a damning non-answer.;

That was the critical moment when the mask slipped. Vance lied about Trump’s economic record and his health care record and his abortion record."

~ Dave Karpf

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/9

https://davekarpf.substack.com/p/jd-vance-couldnt-quite-gaslight-the


"If there is a 'sound bite' that will define the debate, it is when Tim Walz said that JD Vance gave a 'damning non-answer' in refusing to acknowledge that Donald Trump lost in 2020."

~ Robert B. Hubbell

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies
/8

https://roberthubbell.substack.com/p/tim-gets-the-job-done


"If you didn’t watch tonight’s debate, this is all you need to know:

JD Vance’s solution to the mass killing of school children is 'stronger windows.'

Not one child has ever been shot through a school window. ...

My wife Tracy turned to me about halfway through the debate and sighed, 'Vance is a such a sleazy, oily, adept liar.'”

~ Lucian K. Truscott

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/7

https://luciantruscott.substack.com/p/vance-is-such-a-sleazy-oily-adept


"Even if no minds are changed, the debate was still illuminating. J.D. Vance is as uncommitted to the truth as Donald Trump is."

~ Joyce Vance

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/6

https://joycevance.substack.com/p/walz-versus-vance


"Vance appeared slick, poised, and dare I say, held himself like a leader would. Still, the snake oil he was willing to ingest and sell to others was on full display."

~ Alicia Norman

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/5

https://oneangryblackchick.substack.com/p/tim-walz-shellacked-vance


"Quick debate take: the fact that the most upset/alarmed Vance got last night was at the prospect of being fact checked shows that…in every debate…

FACT CHECK!

Vance’s entire debate strategy was premised on NOT being fact checked.

And as a result, he lied the entire night."

~ David Pepper

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/4

https://davidpepper.substack.com/p/new-pod-episode-vance-replace-experts


"JD Vance is a slick debater. He has the natural advantages of lacking a moral core and an ability to lie shamelessly."

~ Dan Pfeiffer

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/2

https://www.messageboxnews.com/p/no-jd-vance-didnt-win-the-debate


"On the debate stage, facing two audiences—the people of the United States on one hand, and Trump on the other—Vance refused to acknowledge that Trump lost.

That moment tells you the most important thing about Vance: When democracy is in peril, he will bow to Trump, not to the people or the Constitution. He must never be given that chance."

~ Will Saletan

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/12

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-one-question-that-mattered-in-the-vp-debate-vance-walz


One of #JDVance’s more remarkable #lies of the night was this: #Trump saved #Obamacare.

He said the #law “was crushing under the weight of its own regulatory burden in health care costs” before TFG took office in 2017 & started loosening some of its rules.

“I think he can make a good argument that it salvaged Obamacare, which was doing disastrously until Donald Trump came along,” #Vance said.

#VPdebate #Election2024 #Vote #VoteBlue #HarrisWalz2024


…#TimWalz’s performance was not disastrous. Far from it. He seems to have come off just fine to viewers, per CBS’s post-debate poll, & he had several good moments. For instance, it was smart of him to ask #JDVance directly whether #Biden won the 2020 election, & to call Vance’s dodge a “damning non-answer.”

It was not exactly a masterful showing, though. #Walz seemed uncomfortable in the format compared to the smooth-talking #Vance, …& he often missed opportunities to call out Vance’s #lies….


In doing so, though, #JDVance said many misleading or totally untrue things [#lies], such as that #Trump saved #Obamacare, that #immigrants caused the US #housing crisis, & that Trump was merely peacefully discussing “problems” w/the 2020 election rather than blatantly trying to steal that election from the rightful winner, Joe #Biden.

#VPdebate #Election2024 #Vote


This fucking bullshut about forcing #CatholicHospitals to perform #abortions? THEY ARE PRIVATELY OWNED!!! #Catholic Hospitals — ANY #RELIGIOUS BUSINESS — is not publicly funded!!! Not subject to federally funded institution regulations!!!!

#Lies!!!! #TimWalz #JDVance #VPdebate #Election2024 #Vote #VoteBlue #HarrisWalz2024


But:

"In fact, while Alabama, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, and South Carolina all declared emergencies and requested and received federal approval of those declarations before the hurricane hit, [Tennessee] Governor Lee did not."

#Republicans #hurricane #Helene #Tennessee #lies #disinformation
/2


Heather Cox Richardson reports that late Friday, Tennessee House Republican Caucus chair Jeremy Faison posted a statement online that President Biden had "finally" approved emergency funding for Tennessee after Helene hit. He made it seem that Biden had delayed approving emergency funding.

#Republicans #hurricane #Helene #Tennessee #lies #disinformation
/1

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/september-29-2024


"Instead, in keeping with an April joint resolution from the Republican-dominated Tennessee legislature calling for 31 days of prayer and fasting to 'seek God’s hand of mercy healing on Tennessee,' Lee proclaimed September 27 'a voluntary Day of Prayer & Fasting.'

Lee did not declare a state of emergency until late on September 27, after flash flooding had already created havoc. President Biden approved it immediately."

#Republicans #hurricane #Helene #Tennessee #lies #disinformation
/3


"CBS’s decision is mostly significant as an indication of how powerful institutions will bend to Trump should he win the presidency. Many are bending already, when he has no official power and is behind in the polls."

#Trump #JDVance #lies #disinformation #PoliticsofHate #media #MediaFail #CBS
/2


"CBS announced over the weekend that moderators Margaret Brennan and Norah O’Donnell will not correct any lies when vice presidential candidates Tim Walz and JD Vance meet in New York to debate on Tuesday night."

~ Brian Beutler

#Trump #JDVance #lies #disinformation #PoliticsofHate #media #MediaFail #CBS
/1

https://www.offmessage.net/p/media-incentivizes-trump-authoritarianism


Elliot Kirschner, who used to work for CBS, says CBS is giving the Trump-Vance team "a license to lie" and that this is "a danger to democracy." Their decision not to factp-check is "a bit like saying firefighters should wait until the house has burned to the ground before picking up the hose—or, at best, suggesting the residents form their own bucket brigade."

#Trump #JDVance #lies #disinformation #PoliticsofHate #media #MediaFail #CBS
/3

https://elliotkirschner.substack.com/p/a-license-to-lie


#KamalaHarris’s recent remarks on the #economy have focused on aiding the ambitions of young #families, first-time #homeowners & #SmallBusiness owners. Today, Harris is expanding that vision, to people who are struggling to make ends meet.

“I am a #capitalist,” #Harris said, directly countering #Trump’s BS attack #lies that she is a left-wing socialist.

#OpportunityEconomy #economy #KamalaHarris #VoteBlue #HarrisWalz2024


"News of Roberts’s alleged comments to colleagues comes as #Trump, the #Republican nominee for president, & his running mate, #JDVance, have engaged in a #racist & false #propaganda campaign to demonize #Haitian immigrants living in Springfield, #Ohio, by claiming that they have been killing & eating people’s #pets. The xenophobic claims... have incited multiple bomb threats that have disrupted the #Springfield community."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/24/project-2025-kevin-roberts-killed-dog

#GOP #Lies #TrumpLies #Republicans #News #USA


"Rarely, if ever, has a presidential campaign collapsed from seeming assurance into utter chaos as Trump-Vance has. The campaign seems to have stumbled into a strange unintended message: 'Let’s go to war with Taylor Swift to stop Haitians from eating dogs.'”

~ David Frum

#Trump #JDVance #TaylorSwift #immigrants #Haitians #lies
/16

Gift link below is from Jim Swift at the Bulwark. If it doesn't work here, I suggest clicking the link at Swift's Substack blog.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/09/trump-vance-x-campaign-losing/679924/?gift=aOVCZp9h14ji1dAW2PyJXaGiJ3-XlyqJOv9yfia2C18&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share


How the #Trump Campaign Ran With Rumors [#lies] About Pet-Eating Migrants—After Being Told They Weren’t True

#Springfield, #Ohio, city ofcls were contacted by #JDVance’s team & said the claims were baseless. It didn’t matter & now the town is in #chaos.

#RecklessEndangerment #CulpableNegligence #law #StochasticTerrorism #racism #hate #ConspiracyTheories

#HarrisWalz2024
https://www.wsj.com/us-news/springfield-ohio-pet-eating-claims-haitian-migrants-04598d48


#Trump, #Outrage & the Modern Era of #PoliticalViolence
The latest apparent assassination attempt against Trump indicates how much the American political landscape has been shaped by #anger stirred by him & against him.
Within days of Trump #vilifying #immigrants on national TV w/ #lies about #Haitian #immigrants eating pets in #Ohio, people began threatening to blow up #schools, #CityHall & other public bldgs, forcing #evacuations & prompting a wave of #fear.
-PeterBaker
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/16/us/politics/trump-violence-assassination-attempt.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb&ngrp=mnp&pvid=CF8B20A1-9295-4D22-895D-B8B8DF64FCD6


Taking @StitchyMc’s words to heart that #Trump’s sensationalist #racist pet-eating #lies are designed to distract us in our outrage from what matters, so I’m turning back to his (make no mistake — it is his) #authoritarian handbook:

I read the full 900-pg #Project2025 manifesto – here’s why it matters

#HeritageFoundation blueprint describes an #America poisoned by ‘#wokeness’ & overtaken by lawlessness that only *#conservatives* can save

by Rachel Leingang
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/14/project-2025-election


Joyce Vance quotes Greg Sargent, who says,

"Fact-checking MAGA's vile lie about cat-eating Haitians misses the point. It's an *open* assertion of the power to lie with impunity about immigrants as a prelude to 'bloody' removals of millions."

Then she adds,

"It's not just that the Haitian story is ridiculous. It's not just that it’s a lie."

#Trump #JDVance #Republicans #immigrants #Haitians #Ohio #lies #xenophobia #Nazis #genocide
/1

https://joycevance.substack.com/p/ebullient-and-somber


The goal: spread fear, anxiety and conflict.

Eg Canada is broken,

vaccines are scary,

Immigrants eat your pets ,

life is not fair if your white , etc.

Washington's indictment shines a bright light on the dark corners of Russian disinformation operations

As a former KGB officer, Putin has always appreciated the value of working in the shadows.

#Uspol #Uspoli #Cdnpoli #Lies #Russia #Misinformation #BrainWashing #PsychOps #PsychologicalWarfare

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/russia-disinformation-tenet-putin-1.7319469