People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
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Lesley Carhart
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Lesley Carhart
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Draken BlackKnight
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Everyone who says "Not my *insert franchise here*" is speaking from a place of misguided nostalgia.
Yes, I'm a straight white man. I also grew up on Next Generation Trek and the TOS movies. Anyone who says Discovery and Starfleet Academy aren't Star Trek needs their heads examined.
Momo
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •The way she doesn't like to wear shoes and how she drops herself into seats give off so much ADHD energy! But combined with her self-confidence it becomes mind-blowing.
That is you? Awesome!! 🤩
Michael Weiss
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Dave C.
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Cavyherd
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •I was actually thinking about this as I was watching #StarfleetAcademy.
I'm an absolutely from-the-start 1st Gen #Trekkie
& I have my issues with the quality of some of the writing.
But I can't express how stoked I am to see the wild range & variety of characters. It's just so freakin' glorious.
JimHudson
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Colman Reilly
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •“solely”, not even “primarily “.
I mean I’m from the 70s, straight, male, cis and white Irish (more or less) and I enjoyed them but it’s an outrage they weren’t designed just for me. 🙄
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Lesley Carhart
in reply to Colman Reilly • • •Colman Reilly
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •so tired: I don’t want more fucking stories about me, I want to see other stories.
Arcadiagt5
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Peter Brett
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Yup. Lots of men need to learn that, “Not everything is for you.”
Fortunately Discovery and Academy have plenty for straight white millennial cis men to enjoy, too.
Lesley Carhart
in reply to Peter Brett • • •Peter Brett
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Anthony, of course
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Matt Wilcox
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •The weird thing is…I don’t think those older guys were bothered about relating to characters. The major difference between old trek and new as I see it is the focus of the shows. Old trek was about story with characters being pretty thin props for whatever story there was that week. New trek is the other way around - very shakey thin story as props for character focus.
I hope they do a show that’s both again, like DS9 became.
Steve
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Iain McLaren
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Nick Kerker
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •As a straight, cis, white millennial male my only gripe with Discovery is that it wasn’t set int the 32nd century from the beginning. These shows live up to Star Trek’s core ideals and are products of their time tackling issues of their time, just as the Treks that came before them did.
People who bemoan “woke” Star Trek never truly understood it to begin with.
Davey
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Discovery is the only one I've watched a full series of and I take a sick pleasure in letting certain people know this.
I'm not the target audience for these "legacy franchise" things anyway. I'll watch utter muck if it's at least new. But if you are going to do something in a really well-established setting it only makes sense to try something new.
(Andor did this but in a "stories for boys" way so that's allowed, or something)
Flaming Cheeto
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Ok, I'll go back to my oatmeal now.
𐁂𐀑𐀐𐁐
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •skylos
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Erotic Mythology ✊
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Sensitive content
Susan Vanderplas
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •derptron
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •One thing that really struck me when watching Discovery is how much the franchise focuses on war now. I don't know why that show. It's not the first by far. It just hit me though and I wonder how Roddenberry would have liked that. Every Star Trek, even one called "Discovery", is primarily full of war.
Exciting. It's a good, fun show. I like it. But it hit me.
Come On Giant Asteroid!
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Cis, Het, Older White Guy here. I LOVE DISCOVERY! I LOVE STARDATE:90210! I AM AMBIVALENT ABOUT PICARD! I LOVE STRANGE NEW WORLDS!
IOW, until now, I've loved every series even if it took a while to warm to DS9. I love all three animated series.
Except for a couple, I do draw the line at the movies. All of them are… watchable but only a couple are good (ST2:TWOK, ST4:TOWTW, IMHO).
If any new Trek dross ever leaks from Paramaga, it's likely to be garbage.
#FuckParamount
MaZderMind
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •TOS has a main character whose parents are different species and no one is surprised that they are married. The idea that the gender of people in a relationship would bother people in such a society seems weird.
It’s probably necessary for audience comprehension, but the idea that we’d still be using gendered pronouns in the 23rd century grated on me quite a bit as a teenager watching TNG for the first time (especially since they did try to make the titles and forms of address in Starfleet gender-neutral). At least Iain M Banks put in translator note explaining that this was an artefact of your reading the book in a stupid language and not the original Marain.
Milly
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Chery (Great Australian Pods)
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •Bill Taroli
in reply to Lesley Carhart • • •I guess we were supposed to be happy with the quiet subplots and innuendo that TNG was so fond of? Sigh. Though I think Academy veered toward the juvenile at times, I applaud it for being genuine and inclusive.
#StarTrek #StarfleetAcademy #woke #LGBTQ #neurodivergent