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Scoop: #WSocial has been experiencing major technical problems for over a week: it is effectively a ghost town, filled with thousands of new accounts that cannot use the platform.

Because my new article contains a possible solution to their problem, by the time you read this the issue may have been fixed. Or not. It has been going on for 7+ days, with complete radio silence by its developers and founders.

My exclusive:

🔗 : blog.elenarossini.com/w-social…

#SocialMedia #ATproto #RateLimiting

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in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

"give us your ID, so we can take it and not give us something in return"
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

it angers me that VDL and Lagarde jumped on this bandwagon apparently without any vetting – just based on some weird backroom Davos connections and apparently hold themselves too good for and too high and mighty for a presence on the open democratic #fediverse. 😠

They should plusOne the Fediverse.
#plusOne

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

#WSocial seems to be really annoying... 🤦🏾‍♂🤦🏾‍♂🤦🏾‍♂
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

Thank you for this well researched article! It’s almost funny to see how at more or less every turn something in the „decentralised“ ATProto ecosystem turns out to be under control of BlueSky. #WhereIsMySurprisedFace
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

I felt it got almost too much trash talking, because I never saw a danger that sane persons would join W-Social.
But I was always looking forward for some funny podcast episodes analysing this f
dumpster fire.
Lots of popcorn potential, though it shows a sad state of EU digital governance.
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

Two pieces of good news for W Social:

1) I may have found the problem that has bricked their network for the past week.

2) This may very well be the LAST article I ever write about them. It's exhausting and stressful and I want to retire from this beat and go back to promoting the Fediverse.

Thank you all for your support and encouragement. And to my trusted source (a Fedi friend) who found and shared with me brilliant gems: THANK YOU! It's been a real honor collaborating with you ❤️

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

Thank you for your reporting on how much of a dumpster fire W social is.

I also think it would be a good thing that you take a much needed break from it. The toxic fumes do harm the brain.

Health first :)

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

I believe their devs are busy on some algorithm and don't have time for troubleshooting. It's something like:

showReplyNumbers = realReplyNumbers^3;
showBoostNumbers = realBoostNumbers^4;
showLikesNumbers = realLikesNumbers * 3;

Currently, they are working to add some sort of random(); to make it look less obvious while their management intensifies marketing efforts.

/1!11

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

I guess I need another coffee because I don't understand how can a Bluesky relay have any impact on a platform that is "owned, run, and hosted in Europe."
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Aleksei 🇪🇪
I suppose their ambitions and marketing are running ahead of their technical capabilities and common sense. Honestly, for such a small platform (5k users as I understand?) they get too much attention. It's a shame that the EU commission got dragged into this mess.
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

well, well, well. If only there wad a ready-to-deploy, battle tested, and opensource solution for this problem. But as usual in this unjust and dreary world the surveillance capitalist need to do everything from scratch. All a lone, without help. Or rhyme or reason.
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in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

, your article is such a friendly and open review. I enjoyed reading. Not to bump you into more w social research, ... ok, I'll say nothing
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

Thank you for this article, Elena.

To sum up: People on the #fediverse, the network that European career politicians decided was beneath them, help VC-backed #wsocial get their act together.

Fedi, you are too good for this world.

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

@EUCommission

EU Commission, please read Elena's article – and, if possible, let us know what you have to say about this:

“European institutions moved their accounts to W Social in order to have their data "hosted in Europe" but aside from their PDS, everything affecting their accounts is still relying on American infrastructure owned by Bluesky PBC. At least when they had their accounts on Bluesky, they were on an open network…”

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

conspiracy theory for this level of incompetence: this is manufactured by American Big Tech
1) pitch W as THE Euro social network, and somehow got it presented as if there was nothing else out there
2) make it a terrible user experience for the newbies who try it
3) wait for the articles in non-specialist media to come in "Europe just can't do social"
4) answer that to anyone who talks about fediverse in the future (ignoring that fedi is not European - but it *feels* european to some).
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

Endlich ein soziales Netzwerk für Jugendliche. Man kann sich registrieren, aber nicht anmelden. Absolut sicher! /s

#wsocial

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in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

Fabulous, supportive article, Elena.

(I am not a fan of WSocial at all. They claim to be the solution while they are not)

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

Thanks @_elena! Wonderful insights and thanks for investing your energies into this research.

Another take away for me pertains how the Fediverse is 'complicated' to get into and stick around. Seeing how many political and institutional actors moved to #WSocial overly quick tells me that it isn't healthy either, to not know what's happening behind the scenes. Apparently, these actors haven't learned a thing, neither about the past, nor about network infrastructures. At least with the bit of friction you have with the fediverse, you have a didactic moment of realising that servers are somebody else's computer.

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

Only slightly related, but to make it easier to redact parts of screenshots, I once wrote this extension that might be helpful: addons.mozilla.org/firefox/add…

(Idea came from this Mastodon post: chaos.social/@maris/1083793924…)

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

One of the best parts of the Fediverse is that everyone has to manage their own load - I could run my instance on a Raspberry Pi, Taylor Swift would need a server farm.
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

This is playing out just as badly on Bluesky from what I read so brand well and truly trashed. Eurosky likely to be the happy recipient of disgruntled European users though they don't have the funding of W (in this case it has made little difference). Late stage capitalism eh. Just an undisciplined cash grab and to hell with working product or even ethical behaviour.
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

Reminds me of a time on here when someone claimed that Mastodon was a ghost town, because no-one was replying to his posts... but he wasn't replying to other people's posts! Just magically expected the engagement to happen just from posting. 😂 And then the kicker is, when I pointed out he needed to post more and ENGAGE MORE if he wanted to get engagement, he called me a spammer and blocked me! Gee, I wonder why he gets no engagement?! 😂
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

"This begs the question: are developers and managers aware of the issue? And are they doing anything to fix it?"

Do they have developers? Or only C*Os that vibe coded that thing and are now running out of tokens?

I will miss your coverage of this topic. It was always fun to read and well researched! Thanks for all the write ups!

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

This entire shitshow is just so bad in all possible respects it makes one wonder whether we're actually looking at something totally different than just a failed-from-the-start social media project?

I mean what is this really? Some cover operation to launder money? Some weird Russian information operation?

Because a social media project this just can't be.

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

hey, look, wsocial said they were "rushing" deployment with no code freezes... what do you expect 😜
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

W Social is merely a PDS? This is getting even more ridiculously vaporware-ish by the week. Locking forward to Friday when you reveal that their PDS is running on AWS.
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

who cares. W Social has way too much "Truth Social but European" vibes. It can go the way of the dodo.
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

Soooo, in Europe maybe some of the same people who are decision-makers behind the scenes in #WSocial are going to be the same powerful people who would handle any ID registration to exclude minors. (safety!) But they still have the access to each member ID gotten and can let that data be “borrowed”. I doubt this is purely a WSocial software and coding issue.
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Bill

@leanderlindahl

Do you know any journalist that could take your information and run with it?

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

@EUCommission
Why?

"More ironic: European institutions moved their accounts to W Social in order to have their data "hosted in Europe" but aside from their PDS, everything affecting their accounts is still relying on American infrastructure owned by Bluesky PBC. At least when they had their accounts on Bluesky, they were on an open network whose code can be inspected. By moving to W Social, European institutions migrated their accounts from an open to a closed-source network ..."

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

You have been referenced in a German IT magazine on that issue (behind paywall): social.heise.de/@ct_Magazin/11…

Edit: They said you were one of the first documenting the disappearing source code

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in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

This is honestly wild to me. I’d be a lot more forgiving if they were transparent about it, and proactively trying to fix things…but, they seem to be fine with covering their ears and pretending not to hear anyone.
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das-g

I could imagine some of the following might be interested (and more than capable) to follow up (and/or might know some colleagues who'd be):

• journalist @adfichter of @republik_magazin and dnip.ch
• free journalists @sveckert & @evawolfangel (both of «They Talk Tech»)
• editor @markusreuter of netzpolitik.org
• author and activist @anneroth
• publicist @afelia

@deadsuperhero

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Adfichter

I guess its more: w social is not relevant enough for most of the tech journalists...that's why most of them are writing about the press release and not digging further.

my colleague @nohillside did btw also an excellent analysis. dnip.ch/2026/06/19/social-medi…

@deadsuperhero

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Mr.Mark

@adfichter @nohillside @deadsuperhero

Jeez whiz… all these so-called tech journalists gush about AI, which is a black box, and yet the Fediverse with its two @@ symbols may as well be Swahili…

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Patrick Seemann
@adfichter it for sure is a challenge to explain why concepts like the Fediverse are beneficial (or why W Social, despite all the claims for openness, seems to be just the European version of X or FB), can understand that traditional media tech journalists struggle with that.
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

yeah I applied to the waitlist back in February. Can't say I'm over excited any more, especially having my own mastodon instance.