Holy shit.
The Russian gov send in an abuse request for the @Bellingcat to be removed from mstdn.social
I am not gonna comply, and have replied to Hetzner
No way I'm gonna let the evils of the gremlin dictate stuff on anything I host
UPDATE: Hetzner ignores their requests and we're in the clear: mstdn.social/@stux/11366257336…
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stux⚡
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Dear Putler,
Go fuck yourself to hell.
Sincerely
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Roni Laukkarinen and Mårten Björklund 🇸🇪 reshared this.
Tobi
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Steve Loughran
in reply to Tobi • • •@tobi from a legal perspective, the traditional response is "we refer you to Arkell v Pressdram, 1971" -which then requires any unfamiliar with that precedent to look it up before discovering the response is "fuck off"
proftomcrick.com/2014/04/29/ar…
Arkell v Pressdram [1971]
Digital, Data & PolicyTrebach
in reply to Steve Loughran • • •Tek say resist
in reply to Trebach • • •Super Nintendo Chalmers
in reply to stux⚡ • • •ˈdälfən™🐬 💥 🌊
in reply to stux⚡ • • •MATE X
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Robert Berger
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Dear russian dictatorship:
Go fuck yourself, if you are still flexible enough
#taurusforukraine #supportUkraine #PutinIsaWarCriminal
Toni
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Jingle Ariels
in reply to stux⚡ • • •stux⚡
in reply to Jingle Ariels • • •ケレムさん 🏴☠️ :unverified:
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Nazani
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Nobody in Russia is able to read it anyway, right?
Grant 🇺🇦ArmUkraine🇺🇦
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Gnosyz 🖖:straightally:
in reply to stux⚡ • • •ilias :thepiratebay:
in reply to stux⚡ • • •fucking pieces of shit, their grubby hands are now trying to abuse Mastodon...
appreciate the call Stux, I can help composing a reply towards Roskomnadzor in russian if needed haha
stux⚡
in reply to stux⚡ • • •BTW
Please feel free to send some fun mails to that address
Keep the fuckers busy for a while
Roni Laukkarinen reshared this.
Anthony
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Quinn Comendant
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Aurochs
in reply to stux⚡ • • •gather ye may, rosebuds
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Thank you for posting this and thank you for your excellent response.
There's no end to how insidious Russian manipulation is in trying to shift views, and there's much too much apologia for it online — including on the Fediverse.
Being open and transparent about it like this is super helpful in combating it.
Mrs Raven
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Toran J. Shaw
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Distante
in reply to stux⚡ • • •~n
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Urban Hermit
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Well, that's a follow.
I wish I knew the exact post that has them sweating, undoubtedly something true and secret that they didn't think could be implied by evidence.
People who conduct assassinations probably should not let things they are afraid of be known. But they wouldn't be violent if they were clever.
Yeah, fuck you Putler.
Aprazeth
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Koen de Jonge - SynQ
in reply to stux⚡ • • •stux⚡
in reply to Koen de Jonge - SynQ • • •SynQ (Koen de Jonge)
in reply to stux⚡ • • •stux⚡
in reply to SynQ (Koen de Jonge) • • •@synq @koen i would LOVE to do that
But that's what a little "scary" in this case
Super Nintendo Chalmers
in reply to stux⚡ • • •T. J. Bombadil
in reply to stux⚡ • • •stux⚡
in reply to stux⚡ • • •If we do need to comply with Hetzner on this, I'm gonna look into an option to get mstdn.social in-home, like literally so they won't be able to touch anything
But that's a last resort since I do not have the hardware not money for that currently
At least there's options just in case
@Bellingcat
Beowulf
in reply to stux⚡ • • •@Bellingcat
Trebach
in reply to stux⚡ • • •I would start looking for other EU server providers immediately because other people have had #Hetzner yank their access away without warning, delete their data, and hide behind their TOS as a reason to do so.
Even attempting to bring everything in house would be a massive up-front investment, you'd probably have to jump through legal hoops for zoning purposes, and you'd have large ongoing expenses for redundant power, internet access, and hardware
@Bellingcat
Guus der Kinderen
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Paul Chambers
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Koen de Jonge - SynQ
in reply to stux⚡ • • •stux⚡
in reply to Koen de Jonge - SynQ • • •Koen de Jonge - SynQ
in reply to stux⚡ • • •h3artbl33d :openbsd: :ve:
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Same. More than willing to help out, have them on Exquisite or setup an instance for them. Bellingcat is doing incredibly important work (and so are you by the way)
CaliCarol
in reply to stux⚡ • • •💀Maggot McFear💀
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Hetzner has previously taken action re: Russian dealings. So 🤞
lowendbox.com/blog/hetzner-tel…
Hetzner Tells Russian Customers to Get Lost -
raindog308 (LowEndBox.com)stux⚡
in reply to 💀Maggot McFear💀 • • •Saibotk ☕
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Leonardo Ferreira Fontenelle
in reply to stux⚡ • • •txt.file
in reply to stux⚡ • • •I am evaluating if I can help if you go hosting@not-DataCenter.
Fwd.
in reply to stux⚡ • • •sparseMatrix 📻
in reply to stux⚡ • • •joene 🏴🇵🇸:rojava:
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Stijn Vanhandsaeme
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Kolja
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Chasalin
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Ricardo Harvin
in reply to stux⚡ • • •FediThing 🏳️🌈
in reply to stux⚡ • • •FediThing 🏳️🌈
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Good for you Stux! 👏
Thank you for standing up for this, and for telling us about this going on!
This is like... what the Fediverse is made for, that the people who run it and the people who use it are at the same level instead of some weird corporation doing awful stuff behind closed doors..
snick8484
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Zeppelin Blanc
in reply to stux⚡ • • •What’s the adequate reply to this email?
Wrong answers only.
I will allow myself to start:
“Since when did gas stations start sending abuse notices?”
Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Jason Howard :sdf:
in reply to stux⚡ • • •FoxVK
in reply to stux⚡ • • •stux⚡
in reply to FoxVK • • •FoxVK
in reply to stux⚡ • • •ehh Really wonder if anybody expected something to happen or some poor being just got hit by falling sh..-I mean order- so he/she just requested deletinon.
Maybe we can try to order them to get out of ukraine in 24hrs. Or maybe in 72 if they leave some vodka on current possitions...
crouton
in reply to stux⚡ • • •martin lentink 🇪🇺 🍋 🟥
in reply to stux⚡ • • •BrianKrebs
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Tell them that if they want to contact you they can download a Windows .exe file that functions (allegedly) as random number generator. That is, after all, what they ask others to do who wish to contact them.
krebsonsecurity.com/2021/06/ad…
Adventures in Contacting the Russian FSB
krebsonsecurity.comstux⚡ reshared this.
stux⚡
in reply to BrianKrebs • • •@briankrebs Holyy... Wow
I'm surprised this surprises me anymore
Reed Mideke
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Russia fines Google more than entire world's GDP
Graham Fraser (BBC News)⁂Krafty⁂
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Herman 🇪🇺🇺🇦🇾🇪🍋
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Nick “Super High I.Q.” —fail-fast :donor:
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Ives
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Thank you for hosting mstdn.social, all the time you put into it, and dealing with harassment like this.
wbftw
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Jorge Candeias
in reply to stux⚡ • • •The best way to fight this?
Each censorship attempt equals a donation to the Ukrainian Armed Forces to whip these mofos' nazi ass.
Telling them so. "Thank you. Your latest attempt at censorship earned x$ for the UAF", or something like that.
jan Anja :CrabVerified:
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Plsik
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Paul Chambers
in reply to stux⚡ • • •william.maggos
in reply to stux⚡ • • •but every media outlet should really have their own server on the fedi. this is our killer app for journalistic freedom. why AP should win.
it's why I always bring up @mondoweiss already running their own server. I'm sure they are constantly pissing off the Israeli govt, who will spin such stories as antisemitic and probably convince a few admins of that view.
we can't have access to important stories going viral dictated by a few rich people, VCs or corporate interests.
Lukas Nagel
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈
in reply to stux⚡ • • •gnate
in reply to stux⚡ • • •@Bellingcat
Homo Hortus
in reply to stux⚡ • • •HarryKrischner
in reply to stux⚡ • • •@Bellingcat @Lazarou
Brandon
in reply to stux⚡ • • •You know you're doing something right when you get emails from The Kremlin asking to take shit down. Keep up the great work!
@Bellingcat
Nelfaneor
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Koen Martens
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Amos Keppler
in reply to stux⚡ • • •tessarakt
in reply to stux⚡ • • •The head of Roskomnadzor is on the EU sanctions list, cf. eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-conten…
This action, again performed under his leadership, again "create[s] a censored information space that promotes, aids and condones the Russian armed aggression against Ukraine."
I would propose reporting this to the appropriate Commission service.
EUR-Lex - 02014R0269-20221114 - EN - EUR-Lex
eur-lex.europa.euJohn :au: :hb: :ve:
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Bellingcat is welcome to set up a backup account @fairdinkum.one - in fact they should set up dozens all over Mastodon. 👍
P.S. #FuckRussia!
Invite: fairdinkum.one/invite/aNgdcESz
fairdinkum.one
Mastodon hosted on fairdinkum.onesobroquet
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Since when does Russia have any sway on what's posted on Social Media )Bessides X that is.
therecord.media/russia-doubles…
"They are doing it as we sit here."
Special Counsel Robert Swan Mueller III
"Russia, Russia, Russia, it was all a hoax, fake news"
D. tRump
An Exhaustive Compendium of Russian Collusion & US Election Intrusions and
Propaganda
tinyurl.com/5a3raftm
Kremlin doubled its blocking of independent media sites this year, researchers say
therecord.mediaNeil Craig
in reply to stux⚡ • • •I agree with the others on this, roscomnadzor are just trying their luck. They have zero teeth outside Russia.
OvertonDoors
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Paul Chambers
in reply to stux⚡ • • •steve mookie kong reshared this.
slotos
in reply to stux⚡ • • •might be a good time to campaign for dismantling of the laws designed to enable such abuses.
5 seconds edit: This just reads a lot like DMCA and similar laws all over the globe. Not sure if those applies here though.
John van
in reply to stux⚡ • • •KawaiiSelbst
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Как бы мне не не нравилось то, как организована работа РКН, и то, какие указания спускаются им сверху.
Но считают отличной дискредитацией самих себя, начав с оскорблений в ответ на вежл
... Show more...Как бы мне не не нравилось то, как организована работа РКН, и то, какие указания спускаются им сверху.
Но считают отличной дискредитацией самих себя, начав с оскорблений в ответ на вежливое письмо. Даже с учётом того, что в письме действительно нет точного указания, что именно на странице нарушает закон. Начать стоит как минимум с ответного письма с попыткой узнать что именно не так (кто знает, может быть на странице действительно было что то плохое?) И уже не получив ответа начать вонять.
А так вы просто показываете себя как простого невежду.
Lord HeeHaw II
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Ella
in reply to stux⚡ • • •дай нам всем бог терпения и настойчивости
Victor Ⓜ️
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Brynawel
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Fucking russian clowns.
But that reminds me: The book "We are Bellingcat" is still on my TBR. I will put it on top.
huntingdon
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Train YIMBY 🚂
in reply to stux⚡ • • •penguin42
in reply to stux⚡ • • •MigMit
in reply to stux⚡ • • •@Bellingcat As a Russian, I can only say...
Thank you.
Luca Sironi
in reply to stux⚡ • • •i'm not sure i got it.
Did they wrote that thing to you or to you hosting provider ?
And why a free-world hosting provider should care about what Mordor would like ?
They can disconnect from internet and connect to Kwangmyong for all i care
Roland
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Luca Sironi
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Gerard van Oel 🍋
in reply to stux⚡ • • •David O'Brien
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Good for you, @stux
@Bellingcat
Robert Berger
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Michael Vilain
in reply to stux⚡ • • •I love asking people who do things for the Russian Government and Putin specifically
What does Putin's dick taste like?
#MAGAIdiots go insane when I ask this. I wonder why.
Botolo
in reply to stux⚡ • • •SnowshadowII :maple:
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Botolo
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Koen 🇺🇦
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Maddad ☑️
in reply to stux⚡ • • •😂 😂 😂
Truth ✓
in reply to stux⚡ • • •💯🏴☠️😎🙌🇺🇸🫵🏽
#saturdayvibes
liilliil 🇫🇯🇱🇨🇱🇧
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Alexis115
in reply to stux⚡ • • •@stux @Bellingcat
AkhIL
in reply to stux⚡ • • •vandorb12
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Forth Co-Processor
in reply to stux⚡ • • •The fediverse is starting to come under attacks by state actors.
This will not end well. We are not prepared.
StaringAtClouds
in reply to stux⚡ • • •paulingo
in reply to stux⚡ • • •book_dragon
in reply to stux⚡ • • •That Girl Over There
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Wolf480pl
in reply to stux⚡ • • •btw. since you're hosting users likely to be targeted by a government:
After dealing with this abuse request stuff, you might want to take a look at this, if you haven't already: devever.net/~hl/xmpp-incident
Brad Ackerman
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Bill Zaumen
in reply to stux⚡ • • •"Beria, someone stole my pipe. Find the guy." Beria says, "I'll get right on it." About a half hour later, Stalin calls Beria back and says, "You can call off your dogs. The pipe fell being my desk." Beria says, "What a pity. We have 13 suspects and 12 have already confessed."
jake (he/him) 🇵🇸
in reply to stux⚡ • • •TheNovemberMan ✊🏳️🌈 🇺🇦☸️☯️🛰️🚀
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Half Asleep
in reply to stux⚡ • • •TheNovemberMan ✊🏳️🌈 🇺🇦☸️☯️🛰️🚀
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Jack Yan (甄爵恩)
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Mary Austin VOTED 4 HARRIS!
in reply to stux⚡ • • •brot
in reply to stux⚡ • • •However, given that I heard about at least three instances of "hetzner decided to cancel my contract and deleted my data after just one email", I would advise for backups that are not hosted on hetzner and maybe a rough idea where you would like to host if hetzner drops you.
Also, a good time to get your domain name recovery codes etc etc.
PKPs Powerfromspace1
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Dr. Koala
in reply to stux⚡ • • •russia and its clownshow of a kleptocratic govt can fuck right off.
TomAoki
in reply to stux⚡ • • •GhostOnTheHalfShell
in reply to stux⚡ • • •cwtshycwtsh
in reply to stux⚡ • • •What a terrible loss it would be, if CIAcat's account was removed. Better stomp your feet on the ground and show them evil Russians that only US can dictate here.
thegrayzone.com/2018/10/29/sha…
The Grayzone
Mark Ames (The Grayzone)Light
in reply to cwtshycwtsh • • •stux⚡
in reply to Light • • •stux⚡
in reply to cwtshycwtsh • • •@cwtshycwtsh We do have rules against spreading mis info, what you seem to do here
So yeah
Meet the hammer
SarsCov2Dude
in reply to stux⚡ • • •You need to answer with UA poststamps:
"Russian warship, go and f**k yourself" (as reported by worldwide media)
@Bellingcat
dotoscat
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Piiieps & Brummm
in reply to stux⚡ • • •I thought about this case.
1. As others noted: they didn't cite any broken law or offending text. Without any of this, IMHO Hetzner should just drop such a complaint.
2. As @Bellingcat is clearly a journalistic account, they have the protection of Art 5 GG. Even if you're not from Germany, Hetzer is and therefore this applies. Yes, this is meant for the state, but it should be applied to companies as well.
3. Ping some German journalists to push it to the general public.
Bob
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Russian ministry, not sure they have any real power outside their borders at all tbh.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roskom…
Russian government agency
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)sortius
in reply to stux⚡ • • •in the words of the defenders of Snake Island:
Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй
joene 🏴🇵🇸:rojava:
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Jan Penfrat
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Marquise de What
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Jay 🇺🇦
in reply to stux⚡ • • •No pasarán.
Hache☕
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Preston MacDougall
in reply to stux⚡ • • •stony kark
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Peter
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Damn, not that it's needed, but that's one heck of an endorsement.
@Bellingcat
Edwinek
in reply to stux⚡ • • •@Bellingcat
❍sz™ 🇪🇺🇺🇦🇬🇪
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Northants Greens
in reply to stux⚡ • • •streisand effect in
3
2
1
Out of Print Archive
in reply to stux⚡ • • •CleoMatra
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Amandine (She/Her)
in reply to stux⚡ • • •市民冯灿根🇺🇦🇹🇼🇮🇱 :verified:
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Snow the sea pup
in reply to stux⚡ • • •David Bender
in reply to stux⚡ • • •@artcollisions
Thanks to the Streisand Effect, I just learned about and now follow @Bellingcat.
Thank you, Russian government!
Yayaeltopian
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Karen E. Lund 💙💛
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Karen E. Lund 💙💛
in reply to stux⚡ • • •THANK YOU!
That's all.
Badger AF (he/him) DEMOCRACY
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Russia, if you're listening:
go fuck yourself.
Karl Dearnley
in reply to stux⚡ • • •lopta
in reply to stux⚡ • • •xs4me2
in reply to stux⚡ • • •ldvsoft
in reply to stux⚡ • • •DHeadshot's Alt
in reply to stux⚡ • • •@Bellingcat
Tomscimyt ☥
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Teun Vink
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Clemens
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Elias Aarnio
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Acesabe
in reply to stux⚡ • • •@Bellingcat @GossiTheDog
Krypt3ia
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Raccoon at TechHub :mastodon:
in reply to stux⚡ • • •If @Bellingcat needs to go somewhere else, or wants to create a mirror somewhere, there are plenty of servers that would be happy to do so, with hosting companies that will have an immediate middle finger response to any requests for takedowns by the Russian government.
stux⚡
in reply to Raccoon at TechHub :mastodon: • • •@Raccoon It's no worry 😉
Hetzner is okay with it and just ignores their requests!
mstdn.social/@stux/11366257336…
stux⚡
2024-12-16 12:47:11
dvo dvo
in reply to stux⚡ • • •SnowshadowII :maple:
in reply to stux⚡ • • •NeonkAaa
in reply to stux⚡ • • •@Bellingcat
SpaceLifeForm
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Jay Stephens
in reply to stux⚡ • • •slotos
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Jack Yan (甄爵恩)
in reply to stux⚡ • • •lord pthenq1
in reply to stux⚡ • • •WikiParty
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Eric-Oliver Mächler 💻
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Mårten Björklund 🇸🇪
in reply to stux⚡ • • •In times like these it must feel good to be a voice for all the victims on Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (MH17/MAS17).
Good job!