"Out of about 170 #drones launched by #Iran - not a single one of them penetrated the State of #Israel, as air force warplanes and our and our allies' air defense systems intercepted dozens of them. Of the more than 30 cruise missiles launched by Iran - none of the missiles penetrated Israeli territory. Our #warplanes intercepted 25 missiles outside the country's borders Out of more...
...than 120 #BallisticMissiles, a very small number penetrated the #Israeli border, while the rest of the missiles were intercepted. This small number fell at an air force base in #Nafatim and caused minor damage to infrastructure."
I agree. I'd go even further re/ "de-escalation," though:
The #MullahRegime needs a face-saving "victory" against the aggressor, at least for it's populace. Telling the world and rubbing it in that "you accomplished nothing" will only anger the Mullah Regime further, as well as a big part of the #Iranian people, against #Israel and the West ("Death to America!") IDF and Netanyahu Regime: tone it down, better STFU!
...Also, the "ironclad support" must be within the framework of international law: if the Netanyahu Regime clearly is the aggressor or escalates situations beyond any reasonable retaliatory measures (#Gaza, #IranianConsulate in #Syria,) it cannot be that the West defends #Israel against--reasonable--retaliation.
It is like the nasty small guy on the playground that hits others and then quickly runs away, hiding...
...nation hostage is, IMO, a casus belli. Portugal should consider invoking #NATO Article 5. The mass delivery of #Iranian drones to #RussiaIsATerroristState causes enormous hardships in the #WarInUkraine. The West is footing the gigantic financial bill. Maybe it is time to solve the weapons problems at its root: take ot #Iranian drone and ballistic missiles factories as a response.
@gimulnautti @HistoPol Yes, wherever you assign blame for escalation, this might have been the optimal outcome, since it might deter Israel from responding.
„According to the story: "President Biden told Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu during a call on Saturday that the U.S. will oppose any Israeli counterattack against Iran, a senior White House official told Axios." It says Biden told Netanyahu: "You got a win. Take the win."“
However, w/o telling him to desist from further escalation or else...it will not work.
Besides, "Bibi" is the guy who embarrassed mighty Ronald Reagan twice with severe acts of aggression. (Interesting #TheEconomist pod last week--paywalled.) For decades, the US always had his back. He's not going to change now, not in his old age and with his political and legal back against the wall. I'm ...
...almost willing to bet. I've been saying it for months: #Netanyahu needs war, if necessary even escalation. As soon as the war is over, he will face criminal charges.
No, he's not a madman, but utterly ruthless and doesn't care about non-Jewish lives at all, and #Jewish lives only if it serves him politically.
@HistoPol Yes. Netanyahu is like Berlusconi but with blood instead of titties on his hands. His immunity to trials awaiting him persists only as long as he remains the prime minister.
@HistoPol are you forgetting Israel started this? I hold no love for Iran but they too have a right to protect themselves. If Israel responds expect Iran, Yeman, Lebanon and Syria to attack and much more heavily than last night. And only eejits believe a world coming from the IDF or OSINT
...Also, the "ironclad support" must be within the framework of international law: if the Netanyahu Regime clearly is the aggressor or escalates situations beyond any reasonable retaliatory measures (#Gaza, #IranianConsulate in #Syria,) it cannot be that the West defends #Israel against--reasonable--retaliation.
It is like the nasty small guy on the playground that hits others and then quickly runs away, hiding...
HistoPol (#HP)
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What is the source, please?
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"Out of about 170 #drones launched by #Iran - not a single one of them penetrated the State of #Israel, as air force warplanes and our and our allies' air defense systems intercepted dozens of them.
Of the more than 30 cruise missiles launched by Iran - none of the missiles
penetrated Israeli territory. Our #warplanes intercepted 25 missiles outside
the country's borders
Out of more...
HistoPol (#HP)
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...than 120 #BallisticMissiles, a very small number penetrated the #Israeli
border, while the rest of the missiles were intercepted. This small number fell at an
air force base in #Nafatim and caused minor damage to infrastructure."
Dominik Steiger
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) • • •HistoPol (#HP) reshared this.
HistoPol (#HP)
in reply to Dominik Steiger • • •Thank you.
Yes, that's what I've heard, too, in the meantime...only the Mullah Regime claims otherwise (chuckle.)
Dominik Steiger
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) • • •Dominik Steiger
in reply to Dominik Steiger • • •@HistoPol Some other claim:
"Today, Iran 🇮🇷 launched 331 Missiles and Drones at Israel 🇮🇱 and the vast majority were shot down
185/185 or (100%) of Kamikaze Drones
103/110 or (93.6%) of Ballistic Missiles
36/36 or (100%) of Cruise Missiles
Currently, 7 Ballistic Missile impacts have been recorded on Israel"
Toni Aittoniemi
in reply to Dominik Steiger • • •@HistoPol One would think making it obvious that attacks don’t make a difference would do that.
But I think the actual sources for escalation of this conflict lie elsewhere.
For example, it could also be thought that the escalation started with Israel for bombing Iran’s consulate.
I have no love for Iran and I wish for their oppressive regime to swiftly end. But I have even more concern for not following international law.
HistoPol (#HP)
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I agree.
I'd go even further re/ "de-escalation," though:
The #MullahRegime needs a face-saving "victory" against the aggressor, at least for it's populace.
Telling the world and rubbing it in that "you accomplished nothing" will only anger the Mullah Regime further, as well as a big part of the #Iranian people, against #Israel and the West ("Death to America!")
IDF and Netanyahu Regime: tone it down, better STFU!
...
@dominiksteiger
HistoPol (#HP)
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...Also, the "ironclad support" must be within the framework of international law: if the Netanyahu Regime clearly is the aggressor or escalates situations beyond any reasonable retaliatory measures (#Gaza, #IranianConsulate in #Syria,) it cannot be that the West defends #Israel against--reasonable--retaliation.
It is like the nasty small guy on the playground that hits others and then quickly runs away, hiding...
HistoPol (#HP)
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...behind his big brother.
Yes, #Israel's right to exist must not be questioned and must be defended.
But we all know what happens if "some animals are more equal than others."
The #Netanyahu Regime and the IDF personnel must face justice at the #ICJ; so must #Hamas and #Iran for its probable act of piracy.
In fact, I am not familiar enough with shipping laws, but just holding the crew of a ship from a #NATO nation...
HistoPol (#HP)
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#MiddleEastWar #Israel #Iran #US #UK
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...nation hostage is, IMO, a casus belli. Portugal should consider invoking #NATO Article 5.
The mass delivery of #Iranian drones to #RussiaIsATerroristState causes enormous hardships in the #WarInUkraine. The West is footing the gigantic financial bill.
Maybe it is time to solve the weapons problems at its root: take ot #Iranian drone and ballistic missiles factories as a response.
Once it has nuclear warheads, this...
HistoPol (#HP)
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...will not be an option anymore.
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Dominik Steiger
in reply to Toni Aittoniemi • • •Dominik Steiger
in reply to Dominik Steiger • • •@gimulnautti @HistoPol This story I haven‘t found the source yet:
„According to the story: "President Biden told Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu during a call on Saturday that the U.S. will oppose any Israeli counterattack against Iran, a senior White House official told Axios." It says Biden told Netanyahu: "You got a win. Take the win."“
HistoPol (#HP)
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Sounds reasonably true.
However, w/o telling him to desist from further escalation or else...it will not work.
Besides, "Bibi" is the guy who embarrassed mighty Ronald Reagan twice with severe acts of aggression. (Interesting #TheEconomist pod last week--paywalled.)
For decades, the US always had his back. He's not going to change now, not in his old age and with his political and legal back against the wall.
I'm ...
HistoPol (#HP)
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#MiddleEastWar #Israel #Iran #US #UK
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...almost willing to bet.
I've been saying it for months: #Netanyahu needs war, if necessary even escalation. As soon as the war is over, he will face criminal charges.
No, he's not a madman, but utterly ruthless and doesn't care about non-Jewish lives at all, and #Jewish lives only if it serves him politically.
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Toni Aittoniemi
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) • • •Linda
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) • • •HistoPol (#HP)
in reply to Linda • • •@Lassielmr
No, I didn't forget, quite the contrary. And I am holding an opinion that isn't mainstream, at least not among Western politicians.
Maybe you didn't see my first thread in this convo?
https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/112268724188700497
@dominiksteiger
HistoPol (#HP)
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