Post from @rabble on why he's chosen to use #Nostr and not #ActivityPub and the #Fediverse. He makes some compelling points. Personally I am not too worried about the server admin parts of his argument (I have enough control, even if I don't control the server), but I agree that this isn't ideal:
"You can’t use a single fediverse identity with your profile and followers in Peertube, Mobilizon, WriteFreely, and Pixelfed. You need a totally separate account in each one."
https://njump.me/nevent1qqsfqlx6wpl5267tmnmmjk7v9tzunjvhzav9unc2tjn6k0w82vghprsppamhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5qjxamnwvaz7tmswfhhs7fdv4u8qetjd9kk2mn59ehkuun9dejx2u3wvdhk6qg5waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kyqgkwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejqzxrhwden5te0wfjkccte9ehx7umhdpjhyefwvdhk6q3qwmr34t36fy03m8hvgl96zl3znndyzyaqhwmwdtshwmtkg03fetaqxczx4f
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seen on wss://nostr.mom, wss://proxy-experiment.onrender.com, wss://relay.damus.io, wss://relay.mostr.pub, wss://relay.nostr.band, wss://relay.noswhere.comRabble (npub1wmr…g240)
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Mike McCue
in reply to Richard MacManus • • •Of the issues that @rabble raises the one that I think is the most important to address is:
"Each kind of fediverse server is isolated. You can use a Peertube instance to federate with other Peertubes for video, or Mobilizon for meetup-style events, or Pixelfed for Instagram-like photo sharing, or WriteFreely for blogs. But each of these is isolated. I need a new account on an instance of each of these servers. They all run the same protocol, but they aren’t actually interoperable. You can’t use a single fediverse identity with your profile and followers in Peertube, Mobilizon, WriteFreely, and Pixelfed. You need a totally separate account in each one. With Nostr, you can use dozens of apps all with your same identity, content, and followers."
cc @evan @Gargron @dansup @JsonCulverhouse @greg @emilynguyen
Chris Trottier
in reply to Mike McCue • • •But I don’t see how Nostr solves that problem because, at its root, this isn’t a problem of software but of culture.
For example, if I created a YouTube-style app based on Nostr, people who use Nostr for microblogging would still bristle at this use case if all they ever encountered was Nostr for microblogging.
Tim Bray
in reply to Mike McCue • • •Mike McCue
in reply to Mike McCue • • •@evan @Gargron @dansup @JsonCulverhouse @greg @emilynguyen
Having said that, I think that #ActivityPub has far more adoption today than Nostr and that is only going to accelerate as more networks federate in the coming months. While Nostr has a lot of interesting ideas we can learn from, it is also quite arcane and requires an encryption key just to use it. That sets up a hard stop for non-technical people (i.e. mainstream audiences) to ever adopt it.
David LaFontaine
in reply to Mike McCue • • •@mike @evan @Gargron @dansup @JsonCulverhouse @greg @emilynguyen sounds like a usability problem
What is the hard stop for a non-techy?
Kote Isaev
in reply to Mike McCue • • •The applications can establish approach to use "foreign accounts". Like that:
1️⃣ person signs up as person@mastodon.example.org
2️⃣ person "remotely signs up" as peertube.example.org as person@mastodon.example.org.
So webfinger at peertube.example.org for account person@mastodon.example.org will return a signed record explaining this is a remote account - a common account record with attribute marking as remote account. 🤔
Evan Prodromou
in reply to Mike McCue • • •@mike @Gargron @dansup @JsonCulverhouse @greg @emilynguyen I gave some detailed responses here.
https://evanp.me/2024/04/14/responses-to-rabble-on-activitypub/
@mike @Gargron @dansup @JsonCulverhouse @greg @emilynguyen I gave some detailed responses here.
https://evanp.me/2024/04/14/responses-to-rabble-on-activitypub/
Evan Prodromou
2024-04-14 21:15:15
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