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Reframing smart glasses as 'pervert glasses'


Smart glasses equipped with cameras, microphones, and AI are a creeping privacy and security nightmare, prompting backlash.
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in reply to Em

Dutch campaign calls them "Gluurbrillen", voyeur glasses.. banray.eu/en

cc @StopdeGluurbril

There's a great sticker. It can be hung in official places and look official, not an activist sticker someone puts there that quickly gets removed.

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Careful with this "no glasses" campaign! There are many of us BLIND users wearing those. People should be properly informed about it. It's coming more and more difficult to feel accepted when accompanied by a guide dog - in USA and Europe there are lots of rejection cases. I'd never want to enter a shop, a restaurant, a boat, etc, and to hear "give me your glasses" - how the fuck could I read the menu then?

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Damn, how sadly polarized the discussion is becoming!
I want just to remind those folks saying "there's nothing positive" that it's very easy to talk when you have no need of assistive technologies. I remind them that their sensory ability is not eternal; a disease could happen to anyone and we could lose our abilities just tomorrow.
Then? Most human beings are not here to help. Most human beings think of their own business.
I just would like a more "propositive" community, on the Fediverse at least. A resilient, decentralized, human-based help system (describe pics and environment remotely) doesn't exist. If current centralized human-based service, Be My Eyes, gets stuck somehow, we'd be screwed.
Everyone complaining about big tech smart glasses, saying "glassholes" or stuff, but no one proposes "how could I be helpful to fill in this gap?" I'm becoming more and more disappointed, judging UNRELIABLE all those people saying they are concerned by (their own) privacy without worrying of blind people's right to be independent (and protected in privacy as well).
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If these were glasses by anyone other than the world leader in mass surveillance, sure.
in reply to Jens FinkhΓ€user

I know many blind folks who bought the meta glasses. Well, I didn't. By choice. As I don't trust Meta. I found it unreliable since 2015; who remembers the big advertisement with the blind woman smiling to images where text was automatically spoken? "Picture may contain: text", it read on memes. WTF! After that, they used disability rights, to normalize marketing-purpose picture scan.
If there's something positive about Trump and his entourage, it's that American companies have finally taken their mask off.
in reply to Elena Brescacin

It's a terrible problem, and the only way that one can arrive at good solutions is to institute policies that aren't authored by these companies (and then washed through some politicians to appear legitimate). It's similar with LLMs, though that tech has more intrinsic flaws.

Unfortunately we live in a time in which politicians are on average particularly corrupt. As a result, I lean a lot more towards bans than I want to - not because I don't want assistive tech, but...

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... because the above makes it particularly difficult to arrive at decent solutions that don't hurt more down the line.

In a sense, the way I see this is that the less corrupt and more overwhelmed politicians have few alternatives. There are orgs that push for better tech regulation, but those are not necessarily in sync with the needs of e.g. blind people.

At the same time, I don't know - genuinely - how well orgs that may stand for blind people's needs are equipped...

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... to propose policies that satisfy the short term needs of the people they represent and the longer term needs of society.

It may be that there's a gap to be closed here?

I'm not sure if this is an accurate assessment, or if closing that gap would have a lot of impact.

I follow the human rights policy considerations group at the IETF (standards body), and see that there is progress to be made when *human rights* people look at tech rather than vice versa. It makes...

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... me a little hopeful that perhaps some of this can be addressed. I just wouldn't know where exactly to start πŸ€”
in reply to Elena Brescacin

#Meta #RayBan #Surveillance #Privacy

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I can see your point, Elena, the glasses are but a tool. (Also, I've worked with people with disabilities.)
So is a handgun, regarding which people in most countries think that it's distribution to people should be minimized.

Also, many people have concerns even about #SecurityCameras in public spaces with security issues.

So, I'd like to throw in a couple of discussion points for all:

@VeilleOff

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#Meta #RayBan #Surveillance #Privacy

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...we all know Putin and MBS dies it.

3.) Why must there be a recording function? Biological eyes don't record, neither should mechanical aids.

4.) Likewise, we've all read the articles about these driving surveillance outfits, better known as #TESLAs, constantly filming its environment and its interior. (TESLA operators are reported to have made fun of their clients while observing them in the cars).
OFC, this is...

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#Meta #RayBan #Surveillance #Privacy

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..it is unacceptable for eyeware cameras to do the same thing with its surroundings.

Explain toe, why there needs to be an upload channel (if there is one so far) or even a permanent-storage (flash?) chip?

5) In some cultures, it is offensive to even take a picture without first asking consent.
From my point of view, filming me, in particular storing the pictures as you go, is offensive and unacceptable.

I do see a...

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#Meta #RayBan #Surveillance #Privacy

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...need for vision aids for target groups in need, but in public places, they should not be allowed at all.
You want to use it on private premises? Be my guest.

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in reply to Elena Brescacin

in reply to Dave 🌱

That's the reason why I hate Meta. The company I bought glasses from - Envision Technologies- is specialized on blind people, but, I would like mainstream companies to do it. Btw it should be done by researchers as you said, not by hyper-capitalism. I am also following other companies such as Fovionics and Agiga echovision - wouldn't like to misspell the name.

Meta has always used us, trapped us, that's why I don't trust them; my "alert" was because I wouldn't like people to stigmatize glasses in general, because of Meta.

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in reply to Dave 🌱

There is no longer so much tolerance. I wear smart glasses every day and they're mostly turned off. A battery-driven aid must work when it's needed! Or I use them as audio device when in public transportation. Open earbuds, the one which seem an earring, are not very safe when pressed against people so, to avoid in-ear devices which close my ears, and overal to avoid barebeating, I have my glasses which keep me safe keeping my ability to listen surrounding, while behaving as an audio player for music, books, phone's speech when reading information, without imposing to people around me, what I'm listening to.
Camera? They have camera, but that's turned on only if I open a conversation with Envision Ally app.
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They should deactivate glasses (not just camera) if someone deactivates sensory feedbacks. I'd personally force companies to introduce a pre-recorded message saying "I'm taking a picture".
Mine does, because it's the app which does it. It says "let me take a look!" Then you hear the photo sound, and then the app talks again "I'm processing your photo"
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