“Hassan Nasrallah and the terrorist group he led, Hezbollah, were responsible for killing hundreds of Americans over a four-decade reign of terror. His death from an Israeli airstrike is a measure of justice for his many victims, including thousands of Americans, Israelis, and Lebanese civilians.” - President Biden in a statement https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/09/28/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-the-death-of-hassan-nasrallah/
Statement from President Joe Biden on the Death of Hassan Nasrallah | The White House
Hassan Nasrallah and the terrorist group he led, Hezbollah, were responsible for killing hundreds of Americans over a four-decade reign of terror.The White House
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to Steve Herman • • •#GeoPol #Lebanon #Israel #MiddleEastWar
*Airstrike assasination of #Hezbollah leader #HassanNasrallah by #IDF*
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I am not a deeply religious person, however, as I read President #Biden's statement, I cannot help but remember a quote from the Old Testament:
Before the destruction of #Sodom and #Gomorrah, #Abraham intercedes on their behalf and asks:
"Will you indeed sweep away the righteous with the wicked? He then negotiates...
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/28/israels-military-says-it-has-killed-hezbollah-leader-hassan-nasrallah
Israel kills Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah in air strike on Beirut
Al JazeeraHistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •#GeoPol #Lebanon #Israel #MiddleEastWar
*Airstrike assasination of #Hezbollah leader #HassanNasrallah by #IDF*
(2/n)
the following promise from God:
“For the sake of ten I will not destroy it."
(1.Mose 18,22) 1)
"The strike levelled six apartment buildings while injuring 91 people, according to Lebanon’s health ministry." 2)
Even though #Nasrallay coordinated the murder of many people, I do not find it in me to support this measure.
#Israel has...
2)
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/28/israels-military-says-it-has-killed-hezbollah-leader-hassan-nasrallah
Israel kills Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah in air strike on Beirut
Al JazeeraHistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •#GeoPol #Lebanon #Israel #MiddleEastWar
*Airstrike assasination of #Hezbolla leader #HassanNasrallah by #IDF*
(3/n)
...the right to self-defense and #Hezbollah has fired 9,500 rokets accross the border since Oct. 7, 2023, killing and displacing many inhabitants in northern Israel. 3)
Attacking military installations of Hezbollah is a way of self-defense. Attacking residential areas in a country that is not at...
2)
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/28/israels-military-says-it-has-killed-hezbollah-leader-hassan-nasrallah
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https://www.bibleserver.com/amp/ESV/1Mo18,22
Israel kills Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah in air strike on Beirut
Al JazeeraHistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •#GeoPol #Lebanon #Israel #MiddleEastWar
*Airstrike assasination of #Hezbolla leader #HassanNasrallah by #IDF*
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...at war with Israel,#Lebanon, a failed nation without the means to push out the terrorist organization, is not.
The whole world has seen what the #Netanyahu Regime and the #IDF did in #Gaza. #Lebanon must not become a second Gaza.
I am surely not the only person who has trouble differentiation the pictures of devastation in the #MiddleEast inflicted by the...
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •#GeoPol #Lebanon #Israel #MiddleEastWar
*Airstrike assasination of #Hezbolla leader #HassanNasrallah by #IDF*
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...#Netanyahu Regime on its neighbors from the unsolicited aggression of the imperialist #Putler Regime in Moscow in #Ukraine.
It is high time for the #Israeli people to kick out #Netanyahu who has a huge interest in kindling the flames in the region, so that he will not face criminal charges after his term of office inevitably comes to an end.
Finally, and...
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •#GeoPol #Lebanon #Israel #MiddleEastWar
*Airstrike assasination of #Hezbolla leader #HassanNasrallah by #IDF*
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... it pains me to say this as a Blue supporter, once again there is a #Biden foreign-policy failure. He did not start this. As I had explained before, successive US presidents have been quite helpless in the face of foreign-policy adventures and aggressions of #Israeli presidents, in particular if his name was #Netanyahu. Nevetheless,...
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •#GeoPol #Lebanon #Israel #MiddleEastWar
*Airstrike assasination of #Hezbolla leader #HassanNasrallah by #IDF*
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...not only #Palestinian supporters are questioning the validity of the #US' "unwaivering support" for a regime that is out of control and does what it wants, often without priorly consulting with its greatest sponsor, the USA.
Giving unconscionable, indicted probable criminal leaders a "carte blanche" to pretty much do as they please is not only...
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •#GeoPol #Lebanon #Israel #MiddleEastWar
*Airstrike assasination of #Hezbolla leader #HassanNasrallah by #IDF*
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...immoral, but also contrary to US foreign-policy interests.
Sorry, but "he had it coming", because this is what it boils down to, is simply not good enough.
*From my point of view, it is high time that the Biden presidency ends and the Harris presidency begins.*
PS:
I am aware that quite some Blue voters...
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •#GeoPol #Lebanon #Israel #MiddleEastWar
*Airstrike assasination of #Hezbolla leader #HassanNasrallah by #IDF*
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...will not like hearing this at this point of the race, but it needs to be said.
There must be a difference between the way Red and Blue handle things.
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Kevin Leecaster
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •That support Iran over the USA explains why you are a climate science denier I suppose, oh well.
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to Kevin Leecaster • • •@GreenFire
Kevin, these ad-hominem attacks of yours must stop. We can disagree on policy, but only in a civil way.
If you had looked at my posts, you'd see that there are hundreds about the ClimateCrisis, I even used to call it a ClimateCatastrophe. (I stopped doing so b/c recent psychological research shows that this insight paralizes people, instead of causing them to act.)
The above thread does not even mention Iran! (Though I know that they finance and influence Hezbolla.)
@w7voa
Kevin Leecaster
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •You support Hezbollah (entirely supported by Iranian religious extremists) over the USA in those posts and you opposed climate action in your trolling last night as do all other climate science deniers so they are not at all ad hominem attacks.
You are welcome to your opinions, but please stop acting like a Trumper or a Tory by denying the stances that you've expressed.
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to Kevin Leecaster • • •@GreenFire
s/: Yes, I utterly support Hezbollah, which is why I call them a terrorist organization.--Their supporters call it a resistance movement.
ICYMI:
"The killing of Hassan Nasrallah leaves Iran with a fateful choice and the US humiliated
Patrick Wintour
...Now, with the Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah confirmed killed, the region, after 11 months, has finally stepped over the brink and into a place it has truly never been before."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/28/hassan-nasrallah-hezbollah-iran-lebanon-israel-us-analysis
PS:
Trumper? - Read!
The killing of Hassan Nasrallah leaves Iran with a fateful choice and the US humiliated
Patrick Wintour (The Guardian)argv minus one
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@HistoPol
What would you have Biden do? Cease weapons shipments to Israel? Many Americans would consider that an act of antisemitism. Harris would lose even more votes.
There's a reason America has been helpless to rein in Netanyahu, and I don't see you or anyone else proposing a solution that has a snowball's chance in hell of success.
@w7voa
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to argv minus one • • •@argv_minus_one
I don't have enought intel of what armaments the US provides to Israel.
However, Netanyahu has been a constant source of humiliation for US presidents, or as #TheGuardian puts it today:
"For Washington, this is a diplomatic humiliation and a display of its inability, or refusal, to control its troublesome ally."
This must end. The US must not be dragged into Netanyahu's war.
I don't pretend to have a turn-key solution. But, yes, some weapons.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/28/hassan-nasrallah-hezbollah-iran-lebanon-israel-us-analysis
@w7voa
The killing of Hassan Nasrallah leaves Iran with a fateful choice and the US humiliated
Patrick Wintour (The Guardian)argv minus one
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •Well, so far this problem seems completely impossible to solve, so with all due respect, that's not good enough. A serious proposal is needed. One that even the experts in the Biden administration haven't thought of.
@w7voa
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to argv minus one • • •@argv_minus_one
I don't disagree with you.
However, as too many things are secrets, it is hard to give a concise advise.
One thing is clear, though: it must hurt the Netanyahu Regime financially and/or militarily so much that it changes its stance. At the same time, it must not hurt Israel's defensive capacity (over 9,500 inbound missiles from just Hezbollah within a year is a clear threat that must be countered).
For instance, but...
@w7voa
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@argv_minus_one
...rather as a concept than a real recommendation, due to lack of intel and details on my side:
no spare parts or bombs for fighter jets, but anything for Irond dome and the like.
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argv minus one
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@HistoPol
If that is done, Netanyahu will publicly scream that the Biden/Harris administration has turned antisemitic and betrayed the people of Israel. Many American voters will believe him and, in rage, vote for Trump. Game over.
@w7voa
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to argv minus one • • •@argv_minus_one
#GeoPol #MidleEastWar #ForeignPolicy #Israel
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I can see your points.
Well, you can't please everyone, I guess.
OFC the election must alway be one, maybe even one of the most important aspects in decision-making. Surely, though, not the only one.
Biden/Harris have been losing ground among younger, pro-Palestinian voters, and there are also many, as the massive student protests these pasts months show, by now even in many countries.
America...
@w7voa
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@argv_minus_one
#GeoPol #MidleEastWar #ForeignPolicy #Israel
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...cannot be seen as Netanyahu's willing big brother that you turn to when you're fighting out of your league (and some might even use another "b-word"!)
I don't think not delivering certain kinds of weapons (to be discussed) can provide a serious case of "anti-semitism." Besides, Dems will not win over the fanatic MAGA cultists in this election.
Also, there are many (US) Jews who do *not* support the...
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@argv_minus_one
#GeoPol #MidleEastWar #ForeignPolicy #Israel
(3/n)
....militaristic approach of the #Netanyahu Regime anymore. You lose some, you win some, maybe more. From an international perspective, #Biden is losing credibility and I'd say maybe even respect from his adversaries. He can be portrayed as being to easily manipulated, maybe even cornered, if I take your comments at face value.
From my point of view, the US cannot continue down that road.
Once a full-scale...
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@argv_minus_one
#GeoPol #MidleEastWar #ForeignPolicy #Israel
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...war breaks out (and there is not all that much missing,) it will be too late to pull the plugs.
All the while, Putler is grinning, as this draws attention and resources away from a much bigger price than #Hezbollah or #Hamas, *#Ukraine*.
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argv minus one
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@HistoPol
The only reason you think most Americans don't support Netanyahu is because Biden has yet to incur their wrath by rejecting him and his regime.
The Biden administration are not idiots, nor are they ill-informed. They must've calculated that they would lose far more votes than they'd gain by rejecting Netanyahu. I have no reason to doubt the correctness of their calculation.
But yes, Biden is clearly cornered by Netanyahu's American supporters.
@w7voa
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to argv minus one • • •@argv_minus_one
#GeoPol #MidleEastWar #ForeignPolicy #Israel
(1/n)
I can agree with much of what you say, except for this sentence:
" I have no reason to doubt the correctness of their calculation."
I doubt he is pretty much miscalculating, like he/they did in the "retreat" from #Afghanistan.
If I remember correctly, #TFG won in 2016, also b/c he promised to "end the war."
I'd say voters will not react kindly if Biden/Harris gets the into a new war...
@w7voa
argv minus one
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@HistoPol
Retreating from Afghanistan was Trump's decision, not Biden's.
Trump won in 2016 because America is terminally infested with racists. Ending wars has nothing to do with it. He tried to start several during his presidency, only for Congress and the generals to stop him…hence Project 2025 calling for them to all be purged…which none of his followers have any objection to.
@w7voa
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@argv_minus_one
#GeoPol #MidleEastWar #ForeignPolicy #Israel
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...Also, I very much doubt that Iran can be kept out of a #MIddleEastWar, if things escalate any further.
In my view, but OFC this is just an assessment, as is yours, a full-scale war with US boots on the ground will backfire even more.
OFC the Administration knows that, it's inevitable. Or the more disloyal by #Bibi to not hold his breath until November 6th.
This is what I'm saying, #Netanyahu...
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@argv_minus_one
#GeoPol #MidleEastWar #ForeignPolicy #Israel
(3/n)
...MUST be reigned in. NOW, before it is too late, which it could quite soon be.
It might already be, b/c "everyone" knows now that Biden cannot control Netanyahu, maybe even less than Reagan.
The ball is now in #Tehran's court. The #Mullah Regime now has less incentive to not react in a beligerent way. The only thing holding them back is that they want the economy-wrecking...
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@argv_minus_one
#GeoPol #MidleEastWar #ForeignPolicy #Israel
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...#sanctions lifted. This could not have come at a worse time for them either.
One last thing: I'd be a very happy person if my assessment of the situation proved to be wrong. In fact, I pray for it to be wrong.
A full-blown war in the #MiddleEast would not only destabilize the whole region, but others as well. For one thing, it would be a repeat of 2015 in Europe.
However this time round, there would not be...
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@argv_minus_one
#GeoPol #MidleEastWar #ForeignPolicy #Israel
(5/n)
..."Culture of Welcome," as then Chancelor Angela Merkel called it. This time, we have either rightwing governments (e.g. Italy) or countries like Germany where the "rightwing extremist" are one of the two strongest parties in state elections. This would not end well, if further floods of hundreds of thousands, maybe more, refugees were to descend on Europe and or/Turkey,...
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@argv_minus_one
#GeoPol #MidleEastWar #ForeignPolicy #Israel
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...maybe Egypt, too.
The whole situation is a giant powder keg. OFC I'm not the only one seing it this way. Small wanter the UN and others are trying to calm down all parties involved in the conflict in the Levant.
Even though the election in the US is hugely important, it might be not the most important thing to consider.
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argv minus one
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@HistoPol
The election in the US is my foremost concern, because I will die horribly if Harris does not win.
I'll worry about some other country's problems when my own life isn't in grave danger. Not until.
@w7voa
argv minus one
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@HistoPol
Reined in how? He clearly takes his orders from Putin, not us. We can't assassinate him; he's got the best national security apparatus in the world. We can't stop giving him weapons or oppose Israel militarily without handing Trump the election on a silver platter.
We appear to be doomed.
@w7voa
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to argv minus one • • •@argv_minus_one
I don't think that Netanyahu takes his orders from Putler. He's "merely" protecting himself from litigation (being a #DarkTetrad does come in handy in this situation, too.)
Assasinating the democratically *elected* leader of an allied nation would be another league beyond Nixon, I'd say.
Like I said earlier, not giving the Netanyahu Regime all they want (intel from #NATO E-3A AWACS? airplane parts? bombs? etc.) will not swing the election, IMHO. This, in my view,
@w7voa
argv minus one
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@HistoPol
If we don't give Netanyahu all the weapons he wants, “DEMOCRATS HATE JEWS!!!11!1” and Trump wins the election. Game over.
@w7voa
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@argv_minus_one
#GeoPol #MidleEastWar #ForeignPolicy #Israel
...can be explained to most of the *relevant* electorat. - The hardcore MAGATs will vote #TFG no matter what Biden does or does not do. So, *only* (potential) Dem voters matter.
I'd say, there are many who rather support Palestine.
If Biden loses "some" Zionist votes in the process, well, maybe it is not such a bad thing in the medium term. They are the reason he is now in such a bind.
Biden...
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 • • •@argv_minus_one
#GeoPol #MidleEastWar #ForeignPolicy #Israel
...neets to cut the Gordian Knot or it will tie his hands. So, no, we're not doomed. In the same way we weren't doomed a couple of months out and it was "Biden or bust." Only some weeks on, and Harris is doing much better.
I think the weeks that are left till e-day on November 5th are still sufficient to replace the Zionist Jewish vote with the Pro-Palestinian (or neutral) vote.
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[Need to call it a day.]