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Washing machine chime #scandal shows how absurd #YouTube #copyright abuse can get


source: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/05/washing-machine-chime-scandal-shows-how-absurd-youtube-copyright-abuse-can-get/

Albino, who is also a popular Twitch #streamer, complained that his YouTube video playing through Fallout was demonetized because a #Samsung washing machine randomly chimed to signal a laundry cycle had finished while he was #streaming.


#news #economy #problem #fail #internet #music

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I'm gonna vote the system is the problem. IMO this is a prime example of power differential between the people who represent and enable the wealthy and everyone else.
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Yes. I was being deliberately facetious in singling-out Samsung.
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@tomgrzybow@societas.online Heh. :)

I can't speak to Samsung. I can speak to the openly predicted absurdities of the DMCA which our "Senators Disney" passed, what, 24 years ago? I feel like I need to apologize to all the younger generations that my generation wasn't able to stop all that.

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I feel like I need to apologize to all the younger generations that my generation wasn’t able to stop all that.

Myself also. It's like the '60s generation turned around 180.

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It's become ridiculous how the rich steal from the poor.
Samsung stole this song from Schubert in the first place;
and then they put a copyright claim on it???

This is this twisted world where wealth can buy lawyers and therewith bend law to their advantage.
They all do it: Listen to the choir of the song "We are the men in Black"; and then to "Forget Me Nots".
They now steal half songs and if they are rich like Will Smith they can do it.

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"Copyright" is a monopolistic legal mechanism used by the wealthy to colonialize the public space.
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Of course Samsung in this case is ridiculous and their exploitation of art which can not copyrighted anymore is despicable.

But just to be the devil's advocate:
The problem with everything being free
(from inventions to copyrights etc.)
is that creators need to make a living
and inventors may want to expand on their idea to improve it.

How would you propose to counteract an injust accumulation of wealth in this way?

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"creators need to make a living"

Sure. Now you tell me who owns the copyrights...

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Do you want to point out that copyrights often are owned by others than the writers or composers?
I genuinely ask, because when I see J.K.Rowling for example I see that she obviously succeeded to manage her copyrights well;
but publishers or record companies can get a huge piece of other's cakes by taking them in.
On the other hand this enables creators to get loans way ahead of time not to have to do other work whilst producing.
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Do you want to point out that copyrights often are owned by others than the writers or composers?

Often? Almost always.

As for the writers... well there are only about a half dozen publishing houses, and certain writers are brand names (with the name more important than the title), so I suppose these privileged few are treated well.

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There are also Billionaires who started out with little - but they are the exception to the rule. "Creators" are very much under the thumb of big business - and that business will not support more than a few "Brand Names".
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maybe even more to the point, in the context of this particular discussion - "creators" are not "creating" from nothing. All creative work is also a product of the community - sociocultural community. To give one person (or company) sole rights to this work seems to be to be putting a boundary around something that belongs to all of us to some degree.
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Scientists cite other scientists. Musicians often do also. Writers, sometimes.
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All your points are absolutely right.
I just want to throw in that a friend of mine who had an indy-music label did have to close it down when the mp3 sharing started - so his life as a musician ended due to copyright infringement.
And in the same way I also stopped making music, because there was no hope for me to earn my living with it anymore.
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Many creators make a living by working a day job. Reading the bio's of commercially viable creatives I note how many are born to privilege. No surprise there.

Bottom line with very rare historical exceptions USian society is not one that supports pursuits that can't be monetized by a select few.

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And in the same way I also stopped making music, because there was no hope for me to earn my living with it anymore.

So, practically speaking, copyright is not helping the "citizen creator". I have great sympathy for musicians in particular, because they seem to be the most exploited. But it's a similar situation for writers and even computer programmers... etc.

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because there was no hope for me to earn my living with it anymore.

I've suggested this to a few people: get together with some others in the same situation and give free concerts. That will be fun. Maybe you can strategically place a hat out.

That said, no one I know has followed-up on my suggestion.

;-\