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Aral Balkan

2 weeks ago • •

Aral Balkan
2 weeks ago • •

If you want to keep using @signalapp in the EU, say no to #ChatControl

https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/take-action-to-stop-chat-control-now/

Take action to stop chat control now!

Chat control is back on the agenda of EU governments. They will discuss “progress” on 10/11 October and are to endorse it on 12/13 December.

^{Patrick Breyer}

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Charles U. Farley

in reply to Aral Balkan • 2 weeks ago • •

Gotta wait for the DDoS your post just caused to pass

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Hilmar Gústafsson

in reply to Aral Balkan • 2 weeks ago • •

For a list of EU representatives that EU citizens can contact: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/full-list

Full list | MEPs | European Parliament | A

List of active Members in the European Parliament by letter or as complete list

^{www.europarl.europa.eu}

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Samuel

in reply to Hilmar Gústafsson • 2 weeks ago • •

It is even more important now do contact the member countries MEPs because we still need to create a blocking minority in the EU council.

One organization in Sweden, @konstellationen, sent some questions to all the parties in the parlament.

Here are the questions translated to English:

https://konstellationen.org/2024/09/12/chat-control-en/

And they also encouraged people to email the parties.

Would be nice if more organizations did that

Survey for the parties in parliament and a newly leaked Chat Control proposal

Newly leaked Chat Control proposal. The EU governments are to position themselves on the proposal by 23 September. Kamratdataföreningen Konstellationen has emailed a survey with questions about Chat Control to the parties in parliament

^{Konstellationen}

@Konstellationen

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FinalOverdrive

in reply to Samuel • 2 weeks ago • •

@samuel @lihram @konstellationen only problem is that too many meps are far right nationalists.

@Hilmar Gústafsson @Samuel @Konstellationen

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Samuel

in reply to FinalOverdrive • 2 weeks ago • •

@FinalOverdrive @lihram @konstellationen Well, gve it a try.

Weirdly enough the far right nationalists in Sweden have a good stance against Chat Control while the social democrats are the ones most for it.

It will make a change if people email. Especially liberals who should be against Chat Control but won't have the courage if they don't know people demand privacy

@Hilmar Gústafsson @FinalOverdrive @Konstellationen

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Samuel

in reply to Samuel • 2 weeks ago • •

@lihram @konstellationen I translated the post to English:

https://konstellationen.org/2024/09/12/chat-control-en/

Survey for the parties in parliament and a newly leaked Chat Control proposal

Newly leaked Chat Control proposal. The EU governments are to position themselves on the proposal by 23 September. Kamratdataföreningen Konstellationen has emailed a survey with questions about Chat Control to the parties in parliament

^{Konstellationen}

@Hilmar Gústafsson @Konstellationen

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Aral Balkan

in reply to Samuel • 2 weeks ago • •

@samuel @lihram @konstellationen Thank you :)

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Bogomil Shopov - Бого

in reply to Samuel • 2 weeks ago • •

@samuel @lihram @konstellationen

I think we need to talk to the Ministry of Interior and Ministry of Justice. The voting will happen on that level. MEPs have nothing to do in this case. It's the representatives from the countries on that level or Coreper II.

@Hilmar Gústafsson @Samuel @Konstellationen

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Samuel

in reply to Bogomil Shopov - Бого • 2 weeks ago • •

@bogo @lihram @konstellationen That is true. But in Sweden at least, the minister needs to have the parliament support.

The issue was raised at the Justice Committee’s meeting in the Swedish parliament on 18 June. It was about whether Sweden would stand behind Belgium’s compromise proposal..

However, the goverment was very sneaky and didn't send out documents beforhand. The MEP:s got the info on the meeting. Two parties who are against missed that they should oppose.

@Hilmar Gústafsson @Bogomil Shopov - Бого @Konstellationen

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Bogomil Shopov - Бого

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@samuel @lihram @konstellationen ah I understand. We in Bulgaria are fighting as well ...

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Samuel

in reply to Bogomil Shopov - Бого • 2 weeks ago • •

@bogo @lihram @konstellationen Keep it up!

@Hilmar Gústafsson @Bogomil Shopov - Бого @Konstellationen

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Erik van Straten

in reply to Aral Balkan • 2 weeks ago • •

: regardless of which chat app you use (if even any): if you want to help protect children from being (sexually) abused, wake up everyone who thinks that Chatcontrol will solve that problem.

On the contrary, it will make things worse: not a single abused child will be found while the number of (police) officers, who chase actual abusers of children, will decrease. More info via https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/113090311124341304.

There are a zillion of other reasons why Chatcontrol won't save children but will cause havoc: it is *hard* to *re-detect* known CSAM video's (https://safer.io/resources/video-hashing-challenges/) while it is impossible to reliably detect abuse of children in live streams.

@signalapp

#CSS #ChatControl #CSAM #Children #Lobby #Lobbyists #TechLobby #TechSolutionists #Thorn #Safer_io #Profits #MisleadingClaims #FalsePositives #FalseNegatives

The challenge of detecting CSAM videos and what we can do about it today

In 2019, Thorn CEO Julie Cordua delivered a TED talk about eliminating child sexual abuse material from the internet. In that talk, she explained how hash sharing will be a critical tool in helping us achieve that goal.

^{Safer (Safer: Proactive Solution for CSE and CSAM Detection)}

#children #css #chatcontrol #csam #profits #lobby #lobbyists #techlobby #techsolutionists #thorn #safer_io #misleadingclaims #falsepositives #falsenegatives @Signal

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Edgelord

in reply to Aral Balkan • 2 weeks ago • •

I will keep using it no matter what the EU does haha!

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Aral Balkan

in reply to Edgelord • 2 weeks ago • •

@colonel Not if #Signal is forced to block access to people in the EU as they have said they won’t comply with #ChatControl if it passes. Unless this was a “I’m not based in the EU, haha” post, in which case, guess what other jurisdictions will be looking to justify using this as precedent if the EU passes it.

#Signal #chatcontrol @colonel