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in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

Elämässäni tapahtuu kaikenlaisia asioita. Mutta tämä oli aivan uutta ja täysin erilaista. 😂😂😂
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

What the hell, that must've been trippy to see. 😅 Might also be that some intern got the job of making something IRC looking, searched online for IRC transcripts, and found you? Anyway, I'd contact the film's creators for sure, to find out what happened.
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

hahaha I'm pretty sure I recognize one of the other names there
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

that is indeed trippy. They must have looked for public records of IRC convos that might look like they match the scene.
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

Yeesh, I can understand the mixed feelings. It's a good film, but absolutely chilling, and of all the scenes your real-life handle could be used in, that one is pretty unnerving... Very interested to know what the production company say when they get back to you!
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

they better have the usual fictitious persons disclaimer if they can't even come up with obviously random names nor anonymize real ones. Entirely coincidental.
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

Whao this is truly awkward, if you have time and energy might be worth to go public about it just to see what happens, I mean this is really on the edge of legality to say the least.
@mustikkasoppa
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

Huh. Thanks for sharing that. Always kind of odd the kind of impact crater disruptive technologies leaves. WE can predict some of it's outline, but never all of it. Your story is an excellent case in point of that truism.
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

@scy Are you sure it’s not been a deliberate choice by the movie creators? Code of mine has appeared in a Chinese streaming series, and apparently the authors use code publically available on GitHub to make the scenes more authentic.
@scy
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

In your case, I guess you’re right. In my case, it’s Apache licensed source code so they don’t have to (and deliberately look for code “free” to use, as I have learned).
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in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

In the US most (all?) movies have a disclaimer that "...any resemblence to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental." I'd be curious if that French movie has something similar. ;-)
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

Oh wow. It’s a little weird considering what you are supposed to be buying in this movie…
Have you thought about contacting the director of this movie?
in reply to Sylvhem

@Sylvhem I already reached out but didn't get a reply. It's difficult to find proper contact information online. I sent an instagram DM to one of their production/promotion companies.
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

I’m French, so if you need help to get in touch with them, feel free to ask. I’ll look at what I can do.
in reply to Sylvhem

@Sylvhem It's this one: imdb.com/title/tt22207786

I think the film is Canadian though. I studied French back in the days and the language is not a issue here I think. The movie also contained some English.

in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

Oh yeah. You probably don’t need any kind of help I could provide then ^^.
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

@Sylvhem If you have IMBd Plus or whatever they call it, you can often find contact emails on there for at least their agents.
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

ultra bizarre. But happy to hear that IRC servers are still used today.
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

They should be more careful. I've noticed, for example, that in the wonderfully stupid "CSI: Cyber" there are a lot of computer screens displayed with IP addresses on - and every single one has at least one octet >255, guaranteeing it can't possible be valid. It's like the old use of 555 area code for fictional phone numbers.
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

Isn't it verrry unlikely that a movie created in 2023 has "#AI" stuff like that in it? I am a harsh critique of AI stuff, and I have been writing about the blind believers in it... but we also have to accept that humans have been f***g up, too... I think in 2023 they didnt use AI to create movie scenes... or did they?
#ai
in reply to Markus Feilner :verified:

@mfeilner It is not unlikely. OpenAI ChatGPT launched publicly in 30. November 2022, I wrote my first blog post about the subject in January 2023. It was widely used back in 2022 and especially in 2023.

But prior to that the language models have gone through the Internet and we've been chatting in IRC for 17+ years. Do your math. @mustikkasoppa

in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

@mfeilner This whole scene is not made by AI as the video per se, but the "fictional" IRC chat (text) probably is. @mustikkasoppa
in reply to Markus Feilner :verified:

did someone try what chatGPT or others have to offer when asked for such a chat?
I havent (yet)...
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

I’m pretty sure there is also a GDPR violation some where around there too.
in reply to aqunt

@aqunt That's what I'm most curious about, especially that the film is québécois, not French (ie EU-based). Though given that it was shot in the autumn of 2022, it's more likely some intern did research in public sources.
in reply to Veza85UE

@Veza85UE By "French" I meant the language, I'm aware it's canadian. I do wonder why they decided to even remotely use real nicks. Why just make them up like the protagonist's LadyOfShalott? @aqunt @mustikkasoppa
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

Reminds me Netflix decided to use some screenshots from a KDE blog post about #Matrix in one of their show.

See floss.social/@carlschwan/10772… and dot.kde.org/2019/02/20/kde-add…

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Roni Laukkarinen

@alextecplayz Yes, the protagonist's nick is probably in the script. But not mine and my wife's. Mustikkasoppa is not from King Arthur that's for sure.

Also one thing to consider is that this is not the only occasion where this happened. Some time ago I was contacted by a person who used chatgpt to generate random chat and again my nick and my wife's popped up. A lightning doesn't strike twice to the same spot.

in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

Any lawyers about that can say whether that's defamation?

I would not be happy about that at all.

in reply to InsertUser

@InsertUser Having a nickname in a fictitious film is not that a big of a deal. I do wonder though where the line should be drawn.
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

@alextecplayz Imagine seeing alextecplayz in the movie. Pretty sure metalx1000 is also real. github.com/metalx1000
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

IRC = Internet Relay Chat, if that helps anyone other than me.

I do for initialisms what alt text does for images.

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@alextecplayz It doesn't prove it but it's very likely so.
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

a few years ago, a tv movie needed a list of victims for a crash or something like that, and they took the list of participants to a 2010 math conference in Paris...

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in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

That's so gross. This is unsustainable, clearly identifiable and insubstantial by your standard: *Any similarity to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events, is purely coincidental - *assuming such a disclaimer was even present. Clearly defamatory, and in the very least highly unethical.
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

You may have a short movie scene mentioning the two of you, but I have an entire song named after me. And no, I wasn't asked about it, either:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=UKxG2oXZ…

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in reply to Stefan Baur 6 * 💉

(On a side note, I've enjoyed blueberry juice on Finnair flights, but I never heard of blueberry soup. Is it real? And if so, do you recommend a particular recipe?)
in reply to Stefan Baur 6 * 💉

@farbenstau Very good morning from Finland! It's 9:20 and I'm just eating breakfast.

You asked about blueberry soup. I'll answer that blueberry soup is the real deal. Here in Finland, we use Finnish wild berries, or bilberries, for bilberry soup. Bilberries have a more intense and strong flavor. The color of the berry is also darker. These berries grow here in the forest and we can collect them ourselves for free as many as we can fit in buckets. 😂👌

Here is the recipe for bilberry soup (In finnish ’mustikkakeitto’ or ’mustikkasoppa’):
martat.fi/reseptit/mustikkakei…

in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

Hi, your https is not working, so you might want to fix it. I shared the story with my husband who noticed this as he does not have a Mastodon account.
in reply to Piia Bartos

@piiabartos ? Works on my browser, and whole activitypub/fediverse is working within TLS. Must be an issue on your husband’s machine.
in reply to aqunt

@aqunt It seems to work now. I also couldn't open the page with another browser. So might have been some random thing that appears to be fixed now.
in reply to Kir

@Kir You are asking did I figure out what was going on? It was a good film, made you guess. @mustikkasoppa
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

I was asking if you managed getting the highest bid for the snuff movies. But I was joking of course :)

I always forget the /s

in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

@rysiek
You should inquire to the film company about the data they stored about you under your nicknames according to the GDPR regulation. The rights include the information where they got the data from.
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

The next level of the hallucinations that you may get when asking an LLM about normal people without a true database check.
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

It wouldn't surprise me. I used to play a video game which included a lot of text chat and RP, of which the logs were publicly posted in a specific format. Back in the GPT-2 and texttotransformer days, I discovered that it was very easy to get the model to output text exactly matching the format of those logs (including common messages constantly spammed into the log by NPCs even if nobody is playing). So this kind of stuff is definitely getting scraped and used, even back in 2019.
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in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

That reminds me of the time someone emailed me to let me know that my URL had appeared on the tv show Bones. artlung.com/blog/2011/01/16/ar…

Pre-A.I., but same principle: You put things on the web, folks might use it somehow.

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in reply to Joe Crawford

@artlung I'm not 100% confident if this is AI, but feels weird, why would someone use something real without permissiom? For lazyness and authenticity?
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

People making movies have to find code somewhere. You might be interested in the classic Tumblr tumblr.com/moviecode -- "Images of the computer code appearing in TV and films and what they really are."

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in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

@artlung This was a fun rabbit hole, I remember stumbling down it after watching #MrRobot. Usually they wrote original code for that show, but not always.
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

Incidentally, I had just made a tool I can use to check how likely an LLM is to generate an arbitrary text. The tokens in the screenshot are color-coded by their probabilities in the positions they appear in, and purple means that the token doesn't even reach the top 500. Judging from this, we're safe from at least Gemma2 and TurkuNLP, and I also suppose that "Open"AI isn't very likely to generate mustikkasoppa's nick either. Given this data, I assume that the movie team found some IRC logs with a traditional search engine rather than generated one with an LLM.
in reply to viznut | Ville-Matias Heikkilä

@viznut Strange, got a notification of your message just now even though it's timestamped earlier. Did your instance have delivery issues?
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen

Sue! You're owed a percentage of residuals at least 😜 On a more serious note -> rnadomly having your identity stole nby AI and used in a suposed piece of fiction (what next? my avatar ends up in mughsots in a crime drama? my fmaily photos and media posts get used to make up the background of a fictional character on TV? Not on!!