Just reading up on #DeltaChat and it does look interesting as a possible signal alternative. Even deploying your own relay seems easy too. Anybody here using it and has any positive feedback ? I mean share if you've negative too as it'll all be gratefully received by all.

delta.chat/en/

Delta Chat: Delta Chat, decentralized secure messenger

Delta Chat is a decentralized and secure messenger app 💬 Reliable instant messaging with multi-profile and multi-device support ⚡️ Sign up to secure and interoperable chatmail relays 🥳 Interactive ...

^delta.chat

A few things #deltachat apps are doing positively different from #Signal apps

- easiest onboarding ever; not depending on phone numbers or other private data

- support for multiple chat profiles/identities

- decentralized servers, not depending on US-based GAFAM etc.

- migration from one app/platform to any other

- easy multi-device support for any chat profile

- developers have chances to get their PRs merged :)

- mini-apps support via webxdc.org

anything missing?

webxdc - web apps shared in a chat

no logins, no coins, no platforms 🎉

^webxdc.org

#Telegram has a nice and fast UI, granted.

But the 1 billion people using TG are at risk because of its big central database that any state security service craves for. Moreover, several anonymization proxy-bot offerings were hacked in 2024, identifying millions of users and content.

#deltachat builds anonymization directly into the app and has pervasive end-to-end encryption. #chatmail relay operators can sleep well, knowing they have nothing. Ergo, E2EE is good for any operators sleep! :)

I love #deltachat at first-sight few days ago, like I was love #telegram at first sight around twelve years ago.

Only one thing I missed on deltachat now, there's no simple library to create deltachat bot using #nodejs, like telegraf for telegram.

#Telegram #deltachat

How are they talking for 10 minutes, boring me to death, jacking off Durov while calling him evil, not even mentioning that Telegrams "encryption" is effectively meaningless.
Then I stopped watching.
At least they didn't explicitly say encrypted either.

You forgot #DeltaChat, which is an excellent alternative to WhatsApp.

@delta

from a random community chat: "#Telegram secret chats exist so you can share your #deltachat QR/link to get off Telegram 😇"

In related news, Arte published a well-done documentary film about "Telegram, the dark empire of Pawel Durov" up (german audio only) arte.tv/de/videos/122721-000-A… -- it's a dive into various TG happenings during the last decades, biographical origins of telegram development, the durov brothers etc..

Telegram - Das dunkle Imperium von Pawel Durow - Die ganze Doku | ARTE

Letzte Bastion der Meinungsfreiheit oder Spielwiese für Extremisten und Kriminelle? Am Messenger-Dienst Telegram scheiden sich die Geister. Genau wie an seinem mysteriösen Gründer, dem Tech-Milliardär Pawel Durow.

^ARTE

Great news: DeltaTouch (@deltatouch), a #DeltaChat client created for #UbuntuTouch, is now available on #Flathub!

flathub.org/en/apps/page.codeb…

We've updated our listing linuxphoneapps.org/apps/page.c… accordingly, and would love to see more apps for Ubuntu Touch land on Flathub (and thus be available for #postmarketOS, #Mobian, #Droidian) - the flatpak manifest may help github.com/flathub/page.codebe… .

Install DeltaTouch on Linux | Flathub

Decentralized, secure messenger app, powered by the chatmail core library

^Flathub

DeltaTouch is finally available on Flathub, made possible by @ell1e and @d2weber. Thank you very much 🥰

Thanks also to the folks at @flathub for the excellent review and for providing this wonderful platform.

flathub.org/en/apps/page.codeb…

Please check it out and let us know if you run into issues, preferably by reporting it in this forum thread: support.delta.chat/t/feedback-…

#DeltaTouch #DeltaChat #Flathub #flatpak

Install DeltaTouch on Linux | Flathub

Decentralized, secure messenger app, powered by the chatmail core library

^Flathub

elegiría mejor #DeltaChat

Quedó comprobado que #Signal utiliza los servidores de Amazon que, al momento de sufrir un colapso, la mensajería quedaría fuera de servicio.

@largo some user-visible differences to Signal:

- onboarding with #deltachat is among the fastest in the industry

- easy to create multiple chat profiles

- multi-device setup and export/import are easy, also between different platforms

- no phone number needed so eg children can participate without forcing a SIM card on them, and without making them discoverable anywhere

- shopping lists, travel checklists, and games like Wonster (a wordle-clone) or Tetris are available for group fun

Signal just released a "poll" feature with great fanfare, while all #deltachat apps already integrated a full suite of chat-shared apps, checklists, polls, shopping lists, calendar, editor + tons of games.

Better, anyone can create new apps, eg as github/codeberg forks from existing apps, and post it to their chats for instant deployment. No need to ask for permission, register an account, and no hosting or DNS: actually "server-less" and fully end-to-end encrypted :)

webxdc.org/apps

Any data that is collected on servers will eventually leak or be abused otherwise.

By design, no one can enumerate #deltachat profiles which are private and not published on any server. Conversely, #chatmail relays do not see or collect private data or metadata.

But wait, there is more :)

We are currently evolving end-to-end security protocols and UX to **survive an attacker fully taking over a server**. The attacker shall not even be able to message users, let alone impersonate anyone.

We were surprised to hear today that Forbes.ru (a subsidiary of the global Forbes brand it seems) recently published an article quoting an expert recommending to use #deltachat on the backdrop of restrictions of Signal, Whatsapp, Telegram, Discord and Viber in Russian networks.

forbes.ru/tekhnologii/548966-n…

Не гасите ваши экраны: чем заменить Telegram и WhatsApp

На фоне учащающейся недоступности самых популярных у россиян мессенджеров Forbes опросил экспертов, чем их можно заменить. Они советуют использовать мессенджеры, поддерживающие сквозное шифрование и децентрализованное хранение данных. А также установ

^{Анастасия Гаврилюк (Forbes.ru)}