👉Santa Susana Field Laboratory (SSFL): Sodium Reactor Experiment (SRE) meltdown👈
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Wow, Appassionato, I've just listened to your 🆕 podcast 🎙️ on the #US "#Chernobyl" incident in #California, *The Secret #NuclearMeltdown Above #LosAngeles".
And I'm deeply impressed.
Yes, #CA, not #ThreeMileIsland (#TMI), as most #US-savvy people will instantly think of. It was up to 👉250 times as toxic..
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in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •👉Santa Susana Field Laboratory (SSFL): Sodium Reactor Experiment (SRE) meltdown👈
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...as toxic as #TMI 👈...
and the general public learned of it only by accident, 20y later
I had never heard of it, even though I went to high school after that most shocking cover up of the #MilitaryIndustrialComplex.
I'd have liked to post the whole longer, informative abstract as a thread here, because the world should finally take notice of the...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •👉Santa Susana Field Laboratory (SSFL): Sodium Reactor Experiment (SRE) meltdown👈
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...degree of deception #Politics and the #DefenseSector are capable of.
Also, I think this is a perfect example for our --> #AIEthics thread:
mastodon.social/@appassionato/…
Mina
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •Actually, part of my family's oral history is that my dad's cousin had been on site in a Californian nuclear facility as a young physicist during a severe incident.
She died of leucemic in 1963.
I wasn't born yet, so I never learnt the exact details. What I do know, is that since then my dad and his parents always fiercely opposed any use of nuclear technology.
For some time, I believed the whole story to be a fantasy - until I read
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@appassionato @si_irini @evelynefoerster
Mina
in reply to Mina • • •about the Santa Susana incident some years ago, when the whole story suddenly became more plausible.
Unfortunately, all relatives from this side of the family have meanwhile passed, so it will remain unclear what actually happened when my dad's cousin was in California.
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HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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Sorry for your loss, but, wow, that you have a family connection to that nuclear disaster is amazing.
OFC, IDK if your relative was based in #CA, but if you listen to the whole pod of @appassionato, I'm quite sure that you will finally find out how and why it happened.
The coincidence of your relative's plight and the #SSFL incident are just too much, also the whole industry seems to have had #UCLA as the nucleus of this economic Diamond 💎,...
@si_irini @evelynefoerster
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •...to say it with #Michael EPorter.😉.
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Mina
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •As I said. I can't say for sure if Claudia (my dad's cousin's name) was truly present during the incident nor that her death from cancer was related to it.
The only things certain are that she was a physicist, that she was in California in 1959, that she died of leucemia and that all elder relatives swore that she was in a nuclear facility during an incident.
The podcast is ai generated, so I won't listen to it, but there are more sources.
@appassionato @si_irini @evelynefoerster
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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If you know her first and last name and (possibly) any address or her social security number, it is feasible to find out more about your "great cousin" (I guess).
Even though 1963 was obviously pre-WWW, a lot of high-school and college year books have been scanned posthoumously (some time ago, I checked out DJT's at the military academy he went to), which is another starting point.
Also,...
@appassionato @si_irini @evelynefoerster
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •...there is the Freedom of Information Act (justice.gov/oip/freedom-inform….)
And, last but not least, a lot of Americans are into #Genealogy. Locating any offspring of your US relatives might be enough as a starting point.
It seems like a fascinating story.
(I am aware that you probably know many of these possible leads, but as IDK which ones... ;)). //
The Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C. § 552
www.justice.govearthling
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to earthling • • •Sometimes a fight has to be fought.
This is a need-to-know for all US residents.
It happened once--it can happen again.
@mina @si_irini @evelynefoerster
earthling
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •"This is need-to-know for all US residents"
But apparently nobody is interested...
"It happened once--it can happen again."
It nearly happened again last month, when Sandy Fire almost breached the perimeter of the contaminated facility. What if the next wildfire is not contained?
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earthling
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •The fight has been fought.
A local resident, mother of a girl who contracted leukemia twice in her first 9 years, gathered 750,000 petitions for the government to clean up the site.
The result - you can guess...
The Beads of Courage 9min video is about her fight.
It is based on the documentary In the Dark Valley (2021).
youtu.be/oH8BilL6H1Q
#SantaSusana
#petition
- YouTube
youtu.beearthling
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to earthling • • •No, I didn't see it.
It is great to hear from you again in this respect, too.
You obviously know quite a few things about #AI.
Toxic waste and government cover-ups are something completely different.
I do use AI, for some time even quite intensely. So I know as well as you how bad it can get in some areas regarding hallucinations.
I found your podcast well-done "Infotainment", if I may say so.
Therefore, it concerns me quite a bit when @mina...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •...@mina thinks that a piece could be AI generated.
Is your pod about the #SSFL incident #AI generated or is #AI only used for the synchronization of foreign languages, as Google states in the information section?
@appassionato
earthling
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •It is based on the documentary In the Dark Valley (2021).
I posted 2 min clip from it here as well.
Mina
in reply to earthling • • •So: To make it clear:
You took the Emmy nominated documentary
inthedarkofthevalley.com/
and fed it to a machine to turn it into a podcast, and then had the audacity to slam a
"Copyright: © TheEarthGazer 2026 All Rights Reserved"
on it.
I realised after a few seconds, the podcast was machine generated and stopped listening.
As far as views are concerned, I am not surprised, it hardly has any.
There are 20 millions of video uploads to YouTube per day.
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Documentary | In the Dark of the Valley
Santa Susana MovieMina
in reply to Mina • • •Getting videos into people's feed is hard and consists mainly in building an audience, a task that can take months or years and may simply fail.
Whilst a few months back, "ai" generated slob used to flood everyone's recommendations, at least on my start page, they have basically disappeared completely, and rightly so.
If you want to raise awareness for the issue, which is a noble cause, I'd recommend, you make something of your own.
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@HistoPol
divVerent
in reply to Mina • • •I actually see no issue at all in using AI translation services (voice recognition, translation, text to speech) provided the person making the video:
- Credits and, if possible, links to the original content.
- Does not claim their own copyright.
- Understands both languages.
- Has reasons to not use their own voice for it (e.g. on politically loaded topics like war coverage, but also e.g. when many speakers are involved, as most people cannot speak in multiple different voices).
- The languages are sufficiently different to even warrant this. Like, don't go and "translate" from British to American English please. If you do that you're just grifting.
Even if one were willing to use one's own voice, sadly there are no good non-AI solutions to remove the original voice as a prerequisite to adding one's own.
And yeah, you may say "just hire voice actors then". Maybe an option if one runs a channel that actually makes money. Not for a private person who wants to raise awareness to an issue. Plus, hiring voice actors usually encounters copyright of the re
... Show more...I actually see no issue at all in using AI translation services (voice recognition, translation, text to speech) provided the person making the video:
- Credits and, if possible, links to the original content.
- Does not claim their own copyright.
- Understands both languages.
- Has reasons to not use their own voice for it (e.g. on politically loaded topics like war coverage, but also e.g. when many speakers are involved, as most people cannot speak in multiple different voices).
- The languages are sufficiently different to even warrant this. Like, don't go and "translate" from British to American English please. If you do that you're just grifting.
Even if one were willing to use one's own voice, sadly there are no good non-AI solutions to remove the original voice as a prerequisite to adding one's own.
And yeah, you may say "just hire voice actors then". Maybe an option if one runs a channel that actually makes money. Not for a private person who wants to raise awareness to an issue. Plus, hiring voice actors usually encounters copyright of the result (unless you pay a lot extra), which for videos of that type is actually pretty bad.
Of course, if the five prerequisites above are not done - that sucks then and ought to be taken down.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to Mina • • •Appassionato/Earthling:
Is Mina's description correct? --If yes, I'd suggest that painstakingly explain why and how you transformed the original documentary in the "show notes."
I think, you really die a nice job transforming the documentary into a pod dialogue. Which tools did you use?
Also, did you fact check the output before the dialogue conversion.
Oh, and I'd remove the copyright.
It might even be an infringement, as you might be earning money from the clicks.
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earthling
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •I would not call the story of child cancer due to government coverup an infotainment...
Anyway, the detailed summary of both the brief video and longer podcast is available on my account here.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to earthling • • •"infotainment"
Me neither, not, if you phrase it that way.
However, you took the original documentary and converted into a podcast format of a dialogue (possibly) letting the #AI explain through this format the difficult chemical, physical, and geological terminology. Also, my "gut feeling" is that the AI slightly dramatized the narrative regarding its wording, but not knowing the original, it is a guess.
@mina
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
Unknown parent • • •konnte?
Ihren persönlichen Bezug zur Feynman-Bio hätte man inhaltsgleich in 5-10 min darstellen können. Das F. ein A. war und Frauen wie Beute/Objekte behandelt zu haben scheint, dafür hätten weitere 5-10 min. und 3 Beispiele (Münze, Vorlesung, + X) gereicht.
Das die Studienbedingungen für Frauen damals unzumutbar und bei ihr extrem suboptimal gewesen zu sein scheinen, war auch in den gleichen 5 min. darstellbar.
Ich habe in der 3/4h nichts über Feynman und zu viel über Angela C. @mina
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
Unknown parent • • •#FeynmanFanboys #FeynmanCult
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Ich habe mir die ersten 45 min. des "rant" von Angela Collier angesehen.
Darin kotzt sie sich zur Hälfte darüber aus, dass sie wegen eines Stalkers, den sie als "Feynman Fanboy" einlassifiziert hat, manche Seminare nicht besuchen konnte.
Hm, so jung, wie sie ist, ist definitiv von einer (teuren) Strafbarkeit auszugehen. Hat sie in TX studiert, dass sie sich im Jahr 2015-20 *ebenfalls nicht* beschweren bzw. Anzeige erstatten
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •gelernt, ausser, dass er wohl ein begnadeter Selbstdarsteller sowie ein menschliches A**ch gewesen sein muss. AC, die vermutlich heute eine gute Physikerin und zudem sehr intellektuell intelligent zu sein scheint, hat durch das Erlittene eine recht massive Störung/Trauma entwickelt: ich auch gelernt, dass sie das Ganze dringend in etlichen Sitzungen bei einem "shrink" verarbeiten sollte, damit sie nicht den ganzen "Balast" mal auf ihre Kinder, v. a. Töchter projiziert.
Ich kenne auf @mina
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •YT einen Wissenschaftskanal einer gleichalten Exogeologin oder Astronomin. Bei jeder Folge lerne ich da mit viel Elan eingesetzt dazu.
War jedoch einmalig interessant, wie man während des Studiums gestalkt werden kann. @mina
Mina
Unknown parent • • •Richard Feynmans popkultureller Ruf beruht allerdings vor allem auf seinen zwei Autobiografien
"Surely, you're joking Mr Feynman" und "What do you care what other people think"
Beide sind lesenswert, aber auch nicht unproblematisch.
Die Physikerin Angela Collier hat sich in fantastischer Weise mit dem Feynman-Kult beschäftigt:
youtube.com/watch?v=TwKpj2ISQA…
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- YouTube
www.youtube.comMina
Unknown parent • • •Der Ruf von Richard Feynman beruht, neben seiner Arbeit, die ihm zu Recht, den Nobelpreis eingebracht hat und den exzellenten Feynman-Vorlesungen über Physik, die man als Laie zwar lesen kann, aber doch recht anspruchsvoll sind.
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HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
Unknown parent • • •Nein, das ist Dr. Rachel Phillips, "Geogirl".
youtu.be/_X87YpLN5qM
- YouTube
youtu.beMina
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •Feynman Fanboys gibt es tatsächlich und auch bei uns.
Das ist ein reales Phänomen.
Wie gesagt: Ich finde seine Bücher wirklich lesenswert.
Mir macht es einfach viel Spaß, Angela Collier zuzuhören. Von daher werde ich bei ihren Videos nicht ungeduldig.
Nicht alles, was eine Person nervt, ist gleich ein Trauma oder eine Störung.
PS: Die Astronomin, die du meinst, ist das Dr. Becky?
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
Unknown parent • • •Mina
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •Oh! Die kenne ich noch nicht.
Das Thema interessiert mich auch sehr!