BREAKING: Founder Of Telegram ARRESTED For Not "Moderating" - aka not enacting censorship
Further war on free speech / encryption - I'll probably talk about it on a video coming up
#censorship #telegram #PavelDurov #crypto #encryption #e2ee #socialMedia #backdoor #France #Paris #News #tech #freedom #freespeech #arstechnica
Shocker: French make surprise arrest of Telegram founder at Paris airport
Lack of moderation on Telegram claimed to be reason for arrest.Ars Technica
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PocketVJ
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Another thought is this likely w/act to intimidate other platforms.
And it appears "X" platform has blroken #telegram as a hashtag.
Interesting.
Chre 🧅
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https://www.tf1info.fr/justice-faits-divers/info-tf1-lci-le-fondateur-et-pdg-de-la-messagerie-cryptee-telegram-interpelle-en-france-2316072.html
INFO TF1/LCI : le fondateur et PDG de la messagerie Telegram interpellé en France
Antoine LLORCA (TF1 Info)David Sardari
in reply to 📡(RTP) Privacy & Tech Tips • • •> Translates into further war on encryption [...]
lol, #telegram doesn't support end-to-end encryption for group chats. It supports it for chats between two individuals, though, but only if they opt-in. So, perhaps worth a fight, but not a war 😛
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegram_(software)#Security
https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix-en.html
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in reply to David Sardari • • •As someone who doesn't use telegram, good to know they still can't offer this (again, not an app I use, nor made claim on group chat)
Going after him for imprisonment for lack of "moderation" threat of "terrorism" charges is a dangerous precedent, as any attack on a messenger promising e2ee, even by this censorship measure alone.
I stand by that.
David Sardari
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German social media regulation law
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in reply to David Sardari • • •@duxsco
Definitely can see it from this side as well.
And the charges, given the lack of e2ee for the most part (outside users familiar enough to enable it), make more sense.
Though not a user of TG, I do think the entire marketing is highly misleading.
And that misleading part, encourages ppl to "openly share their secrets", unknowingly giving those up to server.
With consequences for platform as we now see.
oatbiscuits
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in reply to kat • • •@kat I have not. Was only on it a short period when working w/a FOSS project.
Personally, I believe censorship has a more dangerous ultimate destination, than good.
kat
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in reply to kat • • •@kat It's not really my thing.
I'm honestly not surprised seeing countless spam posts around the web saying
"buy this" buy that on tgram. 😉
kat
in reply to 📡(RTP) Privacy & Tech Tips • • •well.. I just don't agree with your analysis
As a user, the platform has a terrible moderation problem.. actual human content is completely wiped out by bots and scammers.
It's clearly also used by people who are going to piss off local law enforcement on a wide scale (which is well .. whatever).
It's also not e2e unless you make a special setting to create "secret chats"
I don't need to make a theory about free speech to see why French cops might want to talk
#telegram
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in reply to kat • • •@kat
Fair enough.
Shared first / initial impressions / concerns, but could change view in future as I learn more details.
It's not a platform I spend any time on (don't have it).
Gabriel
in reply to 📡(RTP) Privacy & Tech Tips • • •People are rushing in to nit-pick that telegram isn't a secure messager (it isn't) and that it's filled with spam/junk (it is) but there's an important truth to what you're saying.
E2EE isn't an end to itself, it's a means to privacy outside third-party control. The EU (and many other governments) have made it explicitly clear they view any and all communications they can't monitor control or shut down are a problem.
You don't have to like Telegram or durov to see this as a troubling sign within a broader pattern that is only hard to see when ones wishes not to see.
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in reply to Gabriel • • •@gabriel Yes, ppl love to nitpick.
Mentioning it as encrypted messenger app - whether enabled by default or not, group or not... is part of the initial attraction for many.
Even if most don't benefit from this. 😉
To target the founder, charging him with trafficking / terrorism related charges, is still in my eyes, partly an attack on encryption - at least on the surface level.
Underneath, it's a precedent promoting nationstate platform intimidation, censorship.
-free speech absolutist.
Gabriel
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in reply to 📡(RTP) Privacy & Tech Tips • • •@gabriel
To add for balance, w/I have not personally looked into this (but I do like THC "the hacker's choice"), there are claims made about snooper API: https://blog.thc.org/keep-pavel-durov-locked-up
Keep Pavel Durov LOCKED UP
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BREAKING: Telegram Founder Pavel Durov ARRESTED
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