If you’re on mastodon.social, I would highly recommend that you switch to a different server that protects its people instead of exposing them to a well-known bad actor like Facebook/Meta via Threads.
For alternatives, see: https://fedipact.veganism.social
And remember that Mastodon is not the fediverse. The fediverse is much more than just Mastodon and definitely more so than mastodon.social and Mastodon gGmbH.
#mastodonSocial #mastodonGGMBH #mastodon #fediverse #threads #facebook #meta
#Fedipact - The instances blocking Zuckerberg's Threads.net
An interactive list to see which ActivityPub (Matodon, Lemmy, FireFish, etc) instances are federating with Threads.netfedipact.veganism.social
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Maarten Sneep
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Vinnie (any)
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in reply to Aral Balkan • • •eatyourglory
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in reply to eatyourglory • • •adamtewodros
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •ThatGuyWithTheGreenShirt1589
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •yes you should probably move away from mastodon.social but not because they are federating with threats. Instead just because the server is becoming to crowded.
There is (currently) zero threat in federating with Threads (pun intended) and you can all relaxe about this a little 🙂
Eugene himself is doing a great job for the fediverse. Being open to even meta and not excluding them by principle.
Issues about moderation can and should be addressed to the threads team but please be fair.
Aral Balkan
in reply to ThatGuyWithTheGreenShirt1589 • • •Eh?!?
in reply to ThatGuyWithTheGreenShirt1589 • • •What's wrong with excluding meta by principle? They've been around long enough to allow anyone to take an informed, conscious decision about that.
Juho Mäntysalo
in reply to Eh?!? • • •@Eh__tweet @tgwtgs1589
Meta is full of horrible people with horrible actions, and in addition the platforms they operate are far from perfect and the moderation-standards have a real bad cultural and political bias.
That being said, Rocho is very interested in having official accounts (like those of the White House) federated, so if/when problems with Meta become obvious, it's easier to get them to self-host. I can't really fault that logic, even if it's a deal with a devil.
Work in Progress 🌻
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Crafty
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Aral Balkan reshared this.
gavinisdie :troll:
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •ren 🏳️🌈 (a they/them)
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •but I’ve got all my friends on Instagram where most are going to Threads, not Mastodon or any other part of the Fediverse. I love that I will be able to interact with them here.
Also, I think with the lack of algorithm here, most will find more engagement from Mastodon users than the void that is Threads.
I want to hate Meta too, but I actually think this will bring more awareness of the Fediverse than anything else, you know?
Анатолий Богомолов
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •I don't really get how this is a problem.
It's just another instance in fediverse. Threads don't get any more data than other servers do. And your data is publicly available, that's why it's social media. This is more dangerous, than the service that you don't use anyway.
And even if you don't like threads, just block it.
Aral Balkan
in reply to Анатолий Богомолов • • •Simon Lucy
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •@winet
That doesn't really answer his point though.
Anatoly Bogomolov
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •first, I didn't say that we should be federate with everyone. Maybe we have a different vision for a bad actor instance. For me it is servers that are made *primarily* for illegal or unacceptable behavior like, hate speech, "sharing" child porn, promoting violence, spam. Everything else is just people's opinions. Stupid, cringe, wrong everything but opinions.
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Penguinflight
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Simon Lucy
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Kev
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •the #Irish are forming a protective perimeter at mastodon.ie
All Irish people and Irishphiles and Irish festishes are recommended to join. Bring biscuits, cats and sark.
McWabbit🐰 has moved
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Ah, too bad. I respect Eugen's work and wanted to give the larger instances time, but will look for another instance now.
Is there any site where I can filter instances that have a higher maximum character limit than the default 500?
https://fedipact.veganism.social/?v2 and https://fedidb.org/network do not seem to have this particular filter.
If I have to move, I'd like to move to one that blocks Threads (and Bluesky) and have a higher limit.
And accepts my fuming toots condemning nazis
@aral
FediDB, Fediverse Network Statistics
fedidb.orgStephen Gentle
in reply to McWabbit🐰 has moved • • •Aral Balkan
in reply to Stephen Gentle • • •McWabbit🐰 has moved
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •The further from association as possible, the better.
Twitter_expat ✅(Fedi Resident)
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Anyone replying to this with offensive tone will be blocked. I dont follow you Aral and wont ever do, Im not interested in any of the issue you comment about. Im commenting beacuse I follow the #Threads and I have seen countless of user offering cyber abuse towards Gargon.
Aral Balkan
in reply to Twitter_expat ✅(Fedi Resident) • • •avaness
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Aral Balkan
in reply to avaness • • •Felipe
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Felipe
in reply to Felipe • • •Aral Balkan
in reply to Felipe • • •@fbobraga@mastodon.social @Gargron Here’s your context:
https://www.platformer.news/mastodon-interview-eugen-rochko-meta-bluesky-threads-federation/
And you know what you can do with your “desinformation” [sic] tag.
How Mastodon made friends with Meta
Zoë Schiffer (Platformer)Felipe
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Stefan
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Eugen Rochko really likes the fame and Money that came with the popularity of Mastodon and now he wants to keep it that way by pleasing the masses. 🤮
#Mastodon #Fediverse #EugenRochko
@IzzyOnDroid
BiggestBulb 💡🏳️🌈🧑💻
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Aral Balkan
in reply to BiggestBulb 💡🏳️🌈🧑💻 • • •@BiggestBulb Yep, mstdn.social is @stux’s instance. Looks like they’re federating with Facebook/Meta too, though.
Facebook/Meta doesn’t get as much legitimacy from smaller instances + not the author of Mastodon’s instances federating but still.
the_wiggler
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •What exactly do you precive the danger to be?
I don't like threads, but it's mere existence and inclusion doesn't seem to be dangerous. Right now it seems more like a benign tumor. Something to watch.
Aral Balkan
in reply to the_wiggler • • •@the_wiggler Legitimising these bastards and not protecting the vulnerable people on your instance from unmoderated transphobia, etc.
https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/112185303523178797
Aral Balkan
@the_wiggler Legitimising these bastards and not protecting the vulnerable people on your instance from unmoderated transphobia, etc.
https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/112185303523178797
Aral Balkan
2024-03-30 15:18:02
taketwo
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Aral Balkan
in reply to taketwo • • •@taketwo Partnering with a corporation like this isn’t a technical decision, it’s an ethical one.
https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/112185303523178797
Aral Balkan
2024-03-30 15:18:02
@taketwo Partnering with a corporation like this isn’t a technical decision, it’s an ethical one.
https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/112185303523178797
Aral Balkan
2024-03-30 15:18:02
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Jens Finkhäuser 🌻
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •@taketwo Wait until you hear about Email and Email Blocklists....
@aral
FediThing 🏳️🌈
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Yeah, no one is stopping anyone using the protocol. They're just choosing not to federate with an organisation that does really evil stuff:
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2022-02-20/facebook-accused-of-letting-activists-incite-ethnic-massacres-with-hate-and-misinformation-by-survivors-in-ethiopia/
Facebook accused by survivors of letting activists incite ethnic…
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Vinnie (any)
in reply to FediThing 🏳️🌈 • • •FediThing 🏳️🌈
in reply to Vinnie (any) • • •@greenWhale @taketwo
Yup, they did indeed:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence
Rohingya sue Facebook for £150bn over Myanmar genocide
Dan Milmo (The Guardian)(Matthew)=> return 🏳🌈🇿🇦🎮💻📖
in reply to FediThing 🏳️🌈 • • •FediThing 🏳️🌈
in reply to (Matthew)=> return 🏳🌈🇿🇦🎮💻📖 • • •I think most people don't know what "stochastic" means? They're trying to keep the headline as widely readable as possible.
Also, to be specific, it's not that Meta enables, it's that they knowingly allow.
Meta/Facebook wrote a secret internal memo in 2016 where they said they knew this would happen and said they would carry on regardless:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/growth-at-any-cost-top-facebook-executive-defended-data
Top Facebook Executive Defended Data Collection In 2016 Memo — And Warned That Facebook Could Get People Killed
Ryan Mac (BuzzFeed)Cat Herder
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •I have threads blocked so I won't get caught up in their ugliness.
🇵🇸 damaged gods 🇺🇦
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Juho Mäntysalo
in reply to 🇵🇸 damaged gods 🇺🇦 • • •Getting large institutional actors on Fediverse is a big part of popularising the platform.
Aral Balkan
in reply to Juho Mäntysalo • • •@iju @big_louse Ethics be damned.
https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/112185303523178797
Aral Balkan
2024-03-30
@iju @big_louse Ethics be damned.
https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/112185303523178797
Aral Balkan
2024-03-30 15:18:02
🇵🇸 damaged gods 🇺🇦
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •@iju
Larte institutional actors? When has that ever been true? Is tiktok big because biden is on it? No platforms get big then institutions move in
Juho Mäntysalo
in reply to 🇵🇸 damaged gods 🇺🇦 • • •@big_louse
More like: is internet big because a whitehouse (among other institutional actors) has a webpage? Is email big because whitehouse (among other..) has an adress?
I'd argue yes.
🇵🇸 damaged gods 🇺🇦
in reply to Juho Mäntysalo • • •Juho Mäntysalo
in reply to 🇵🇸 damaged gods 🇺🇦 • • •@big_louse
Well, arguably both internet and email became popular when commercial operators were allowed operations in the second half of the 1990s.
At that point Internet had existed half a decade, and email two.
Aral Balkan
in reply to Juho Mäntysalo • • •Juho Mäntysalo
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •That was also the point where people who weren't businessmen or university students started having access.
Though I suppose there were alternatives, like government operated tech and services like that surrounding BBC Micro.
Juho Mäntysalo
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •@big_louse
Yeah, I addressed that in my other post:
https://mastodon.social/@iju/112234235808358225
That said, I'd like to say that please don't assume something not directly stated. That's just strawmanning, and it's unbecoming:
https://mas.to/@TechConnectify/112226607795971711
Also: expecting sainthood of mortal people in a complicated world is rather unconstructive. Even as "greater good" -arguments rarely end well.
Question is largerly is TERF-content something that requires defenetration or technological incompatibility.
Technology Connections (@TechConnectify@mas.to)
mas.to@big_louse
Yeah, I addressed that in my other post:
https://mastodon.social/@iju/112234235808358225
That said, I'd like to say that please don't assume something not directly stated. That's just strawmanning, and it's unbecoming:
https://mas.to/@TechConnectify/112226607795971711
Also: expecting sainthood of mortal people in a complicated world is rather unconstructive. Even as "greater good" -arguments rarely end well.
Question is largerly is TERF-content something that requires defenetration or technological incompatibility.
Juho Mäntysalo
2024-04-08 06:42:09
🇵🇸 damaged gods 🇺🇦
in reply to Juho Mäntysalo • • •Content warning: Meta
@iju
Idk what you mean, there are in fact TERFs on fedi already there's an instance called spinsters i know of, of course they are blocked by most of us, no one is denying them access to the technology but we dont need to go out of our way to help them. That goes double for Meta or other mega corporations.
Just like the US government is perfectly capable of setting up an activitypub server.
Going put of your way to acvomodare the wealthiest and most powerful people on the planet against what may be the majority of one's userbase is certainly not becoming
rail :neofox_flag_nb:
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Alonely0 🦀
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •kaffando
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •How do I shift to a different server? I don't want anything, at all, to do with threads.
Not expecting you to tell me how to move, I'll look it up. Thanks for this info, though 😎
Nuno & Lua :DsaprvingLua:
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