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Most "Smart" TVs use Automatic Content Recognition (#ACR), essentially taking snapshots every 10+ms of what you watch and hear, then forwarding & selling that data to companies for ads, etc.

I now feel it's only a matter of time before this "feature" finds its way to our ever "smarter" PC monitors.

#LG with the help of #Windows is already installing adware when the right Device ID is detected.

arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/0…

β˜‘οΈ To disable ACR on #TV:
zdnet.com/home-and-office/home…

#news #Tech #Technology

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in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

I am so thankful that I was able to get my mum to stop using Windows! All because MS decided to put ads in the next one (11) and because her computer is old enough where it would not be able to boot it.

Now she also uses Linux. Much better although she still sometimes needs help (but she did with the other one too). Although at work decades ago she used unix.

As for THIS it rather reminds me of printer tracking dots. You know about those, right?

in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson

@xexyl Haha seriously you made your mom jump ship just in time ;)

What did you choose for her: Debian or Ubuntu?

Never heard of it! Printers also track?!

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

MUM. :)

Anyway it is Zorin Linux.

As far as the printer tracking dots. I can’t get a link right now but you might be able to find it if you check google for: printer tracking dots BBC.

It’s possible they linked to the EFF but I read about it many years back.

in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson

If you can’t find it let me know and I’ll see if I can although probably not today (slower start than usual and I have a number of things to do including extra things such as baking courgette bread for the neighbours who moved in yesterday.

But I also want to read after finishing a programming session (after I get the dogs back in who I just let out $ and then one quick thing and then read a bit!

I think I won’t get as much as I want to today but oh well.

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

Yep: laser printers encode a timestamp and the serial number of the printer in a pattern of yellow dots on the printed page. Next time you can't print a black and white letter because you've run out of yellow toner, remember this.

bbc.co.uk/future/article/20170…

@xexyl

in reply to C++ Wage Slave

@CppGuy OMFG literally just had that issue with my printer, thought it was a major bug, wow just wow I feel like I can't trust any device I own anymore 🀯 (unless I bought it pre 2000s)

thanks for the original article friend ❀❀ @xexyl

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

@CppGuy yes. Well but then again let’s be honest. If you’re not having a printer problem you’re not using a printer!

Still ink running out at the wrong time is extremely frustrating yes.

in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson

@xexyl Fair point, wonder if it isn't better to 3d print my paperwork from now on, no tracking dots possible! @CppGuy
in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

@CppGuy probably not worth it. Iirc some printers don't do it. But I could be wrong and the list is (maybe?) outdated, if I am not imagining it. Maybe the EFF keeps a list? Still it's an interesting way to look at it: wasting ink. That is not only an invasion but also theft and theft that most people do not even know is happening or why. It's theft because it is wasting the resources without permission of OTHERS.
in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson

@xexyl Wow it actually is, nicely caught! Wonder if you could sue them for reimbursement of 100s of gallons of yellow ink? ;)
@CppGuy
in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

@CppGuy absolutely not.

As it is people have had a hell of a time suing a certain government for Agent Orange. And that’s not the only thing that happened.

You would have no chance. The thing is that there’s no such thing as a justice system. This is a complete lie. It is a LEGAL system. There’s a huge difference but so many people want to believe that justice exists.

It doesn’t. If it did people also wouldn’t be wrongly imprisoned.

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

@CppGuy it's something I thought of decades ago and I have thought of it many times since then. But people want to believe there is such a thing as justice when it's just a legal system. If there was justice then people would not be imprisoned when they were innocent. People would not be executed when innocent (or ... what about at all?). And above all it is not justice unless it's prevented. Also the word humane (the etymology) is one of the most cynical and stupidest words ever.
in reply to C++ Wage Slave

@CppGuy @xexyl

In the same Wikipedia article:

"In 2018, scientists from TU Dresden developed and published a tool to extract and analyze the steganographic codes of a given color printer and subsequently to anonymize prints from that printer. (...) [18][11][19] The scientists made the software available to support whistleblowers in their efforts to publicize grievances.[20]"

#anonymization #printing #OpenSource #software #privacy

in reply to C++ Wage Slave

@C++ Wage Slave @Cody Boone Ferguson @MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ So here's what I would do:

  1. Print to PDF
  2. Open the PDF up in GIMP or Krita
  3. Add a ton of random yellow dots (to obscure the tracking dots)
  4. Print that
  5. ???
  6. Profit!

Note: I cannot guarantee this would actually work.

in reply to Jonathan Lamothe

@me @CppGuy whether it would work or not ... it is a hilarious idea. Assuming it was ever read by [them]. But I wonder if they have a way to read it anyway. It seems also a fair exchange - if they want to waste your ink you can waste their time (assuming it would work that way). But of course better that they don't see it. I wonder if any printers will work without yellow ink. If they do that would be the easiest solution (maybe?).
in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson

@me @CppGuy I also wonder how it would work with black and white mode only. That I would guess they still do print it. I believe printers might whine if you don't have yellow ink but I don't know if they would work or not. It's been a long time since I've had to change ink cartridges though.
in reply to Jonathan Lamothe

@me of course they do. It just popped into my head as it is a natural progression from β€˜what if you don’t have yellow ink?’.

Another thought (though I would never want to test it) is what if you could trick it to have the wrong colour in the printer.

Or .. we could all start printing on yellow paper. That would be harder to read but it would at least make them work harder (assuming we could even get yellow printer paper!).

in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson

RE: infosec.space/@CppGuy/11702038…

@xexyl

Apparently you have to refill the yellow ink (I also had this issue the other day) mastodon.social/@CppGuy@infose… @me


Yep: laser printers encode a timestamp and the serial number of the printer in a pattern of yellow dots on the printed page. Next time you can't print a black and white letter because you've run out of yellow toner, remember this.

bbc.co.uk/future/article/20170…

@xexyl


in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

@xexyl @me On the bright side, I still have and use a 2005-vintage HP LaserJet 1012 which is strictly back toner only. ...also, I don't do fraud or other crimes with things I printed on my printer.
in reply to Paul Tourville

@Paul Tourville @Cody Boone Ferguson @MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ The black toner only solution probably has you pretty safe. The I'm not doing anything wrong thing only works until someone changes the definition of "wrong".
in reply to Jonathan Lamothe

@me @TaoBear sad but true yes.

And so many people including governments (plural!) say that only bad people have things to hide to which I say: okay then give me your banking credentials, your credit cards, your id, your passwords, passcodes, all of it.

If only β€˜bad’ people have something to hide then you obviously have no problem giving me those things.

But of course it unfortunately goes far over their poor heads.

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

Surprisingly, nobody at Microsoft can recall who came up with the idea of taking regular snapshots of user desktops! πŸ’‘
in reply to Christian Rickert

Hahaha yeah Microsoft made me #Recall why people definitely need #Linux ;)
mastodon.social/@madeindex/112…

Software level isn't enough, users clearly demand device level surveillance! 🀣

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in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

From an operating-system-as-a-service perspective it's brilliant:

* free training data for Microsoft
* full employee tracking at work
* complete evidence for police
* advertisement A/B testing

πŸ₯΄ πŸͺŸ 🀳

in reply to Christian Rickert

Hell yeah! Satan would be proud!

I heard rumors North Korea was so impressed, they might be considering a switch back from Red Star OS to Microsoft ;)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star…

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in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

@christianrickert That #Recall situation reminds me of one of the the fruits of my contribution in a shitposting competition I competed in a few years back. Here's a cropped out version of it.

#MicroSpyware inside #Binbows

Unknown parent

mastodon - Link to source
MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ
omfg thank you for that, what a legend hahah #HolyC killed me hahah en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TempleOS…
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in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

Someone tell the MPAA. Taking screenshots if movies and TV at a massive scale is not only a privacy violation, but also a possible copyright violation too.

It isn't hard to understand that having ten thousand TVs sending timestamped screenshots every few seconds will effectively allow them to effectively re-construct whatever is being watched, in real time. This is just piracy with extra steps.

The movie industry would want my head on a pike if I made malware that did this.

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in reply to Alice Pea

@alice_pea_3526 hahahahaha that would be THE lawsuit of the year, imagine they would for the first time ever do something actually effective and good haha

We laugh about it, meanwhile they probably also buy the data to put ads for their content ;)

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

For a Visio, who's "watch free" feature sucks balls in my opinion.

About 5 years old, go to settings, admin & privacy, viewing data, click viewing data and turn off.

This is illegal search and seizure and should be asked if they can track you when you first buy the TV, not on by default. It shouldn't even have been built into the TV's. But seeing how lazy Americans are, they don't give a shit about the constitution.
It's anarchy out there ladies and gents...

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

@SCALETHEORY lines were bluried, pretty methodically. No oligarch want us to fight for democracy (as opposite to corruption), they want us fighting for illusion (socialism is just another name for corruption). Oligarchs can adapt to any -ism, except to democracy. They can't survive without corruption.
in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

idk about how democracy can work in every country. I guess there will be different ways.
I want to hear scientists talking about it, i want mass media talk about it with philosophers, writers, unions. There's a lot of people who have much more knowledge about it, but i do not hear them.

So i have some own redneck thoughts, but hey, they're pure diy out of scrap i found on the road.

in reply to mcSlibinas

@mcSlibinas Haha Yeah, instead of "increasing" democracy the West has recently been rapidly "decreasing" it.
in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

actually "The West" you mentioned have names and surnames. Also photos in first newspaper pages.
in reply to mcSlibinas

@mcSlibinas very true haha although it's so many and for so long - we need a new drive to put them all in a text file ;)
in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

"Corporations and Unreasonable Searches and Seizures: Does the Supreme Court's Decision in Riley v. California Signal the Rebirth of the 4th Amendment in White Collar Cases"

Might be a good read for the guy who's password wiped his phone.

natlawreview.com/article/corpo…

in reply to Scale Theory

@SCALETHEORY For sure going to get referenced by his lawyer ;)

I mean what do these officers learn during training?! Starts to feel like their training is in North Korea or something...

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

The only reason this is happening is that Microsoft is upset that it doesn't have its own McAfee ads! How dare someone else advertise McAfee!
in reply to ArchiveScribe

@archivescribe yeah seems like they only take issue with McAfee ads, not the method itself: "We’ve connected with the team at LG and as an immediate next step, they have agreed to disable the McAfee pop-up from their app."
in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

Another brand that was branded as β€˜unbuyable’

Switch to English:
42thinking.de/2025/09/opportun…

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

My smart TV recently asked me to accept a new "network privacy policy." I refused and since then it won't connect to the wifi.

Luckily the attached NAS with Linux on it is unaffected, so now I get to watch whatever I like without my TV telling Big Brother what I'm watching :-)

in reply to Rad und Tat

@radundtat πŸ‘ That is the way ❀

Even without the connection it might continue to collect data, if you or anybody else ever connects it again, it might be sent, better to turn it off just in case :))

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

Definitely going to turn this off, and will be curious if it has any effect. I only watch sports on my television and only a few sports at that. I don’t get fed a lot of sports marketing.
in reply to David Todd McCarty

@dtm That would certainly be interesting to reverse engineer.

Are the ads age or gender related?

I would also be interested to know if and which government agencies buy/get access.

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

How soon we forget...

From 2017:

"VIZIO to Pay $2.2 Million to FTC, State of New Jersey to Settle Charges It Collected Viewing Histories on 11 Million Smart Televisions without Users’ Consent"

ftc.gov/news-events/news/press…

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

I had a Samsung 5k monitor that had some smart features, including built-in WiFi – it was running basically the same software as their TVs. Luckily the smart features could be ignored completely, but I returned it anyway, as it had other problems.
in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

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in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

@MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ Doesn't Windowa Recall do exactly this? I think I heard something about Microsoft disabling this feature, but even if so, I imagine they're just waiting for the heat to die down before they silently re-enable it.
in reply to Jonathan Lamothe

@me 100%, but you know what they say, if it's software-level it's OK surveillance, if it's software&hardware-level surveillance it's perfect ❀
in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

I'm sorry why on earth does a monitor even get to install software? Why is that even a thing, let alone allowed by the os
in reply to Jonathan Lamothe

@me ah, they hijacked *that* pathway. Although monitors don't really need drivers. :blobunamused:
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