Rights expert finds ‘reasonable grounds’ #genocide is being committed in #Gaza
Source: https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147976
There are "reasonable grounds" to believe that #Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza, the UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories said on Tuesday.
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Rights expert finds ‘reasonable grounds’ genocide is being committed in Gaza
There are "reasonable grounds" to believe that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza, the UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories said on Tuesday.UN News
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in reply to anonymiss • • •Your answer would of course be much more comprehensible with a reason.
tomgrzybow
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in reply to anonymiss • • •Number of civilian casualties doesn't "prove" it's a genocide. I also think getting hung up on whether the word applies or not isn't the most important thing; it's stopping the horror. Having said that, the imposed famine, seemingly used as a weapon of war, convinced me that this is genocide.
Meanwhile, an Israeli holocaust researcher put out a really good case explaining why this is a genocide (original is in Hebrew and long, but Google did a good job on this chunk):
Holocaust researcher Amos Goldberg on #Gaza and genocide
... Show more..."In known ways, Palestinian Gaza as a geographical-political-cultural-human complex no longer exists. Genocide is the deliberate extermination of a collective or part of it - not of all its individuals. And this is what is happening in Gaza. The result is undoubtedly genocidal. The numerous declarations of extermination from senior officials in the Israeli government, and the general destructive public atmosphere, which was rightly pointed out by Carolina Landsman, show that th
Number of civilian casualties doesn't "prove" it's a genocide. I also think getting hung up on whether the word applies or not isn't the most important thing; it's stopping the horror. Having said that, the imposed famine, seemingly used as a weapon of war, convinced me that this is genocide.
Meanwhile, an Israeli holocaust researcher put out a really good case explaining why this is a genocide (original is in Hebrew and long, but Google did a good job on this chunk):
Holocaust researcher Amos Goldberg on #Gaza and genocide
"In known ways, Palestinian Gaza as a geographical-political-cultural-human complex no longer exists. Genocide is the deliberate extermination of a collective or part of it - not of all its individuals. And this is what is happening in Gaza. The result is undoubtedly genocidal. The numerous declarations of extermination from senior officials in the Israeli government, and the general destructive public atmosphere, which was rightly pointed out by Carolina Landsman, show that this was also the intention."
"Israelis are mistaken in thinking that genocide should look like the Holocaust... However, although each case of genocide has a different character, in terms of the scope of the murder and its characteristics, the common denominator of most of them is that they were committed out of an authentic sense of self-defense. From a legal point of view, an event cannot to be both an event of self-defense and an event of genocide. These two legal categories are mutually exclusive. But historically, self-defense is not at odds with genocide, but is usually one of its central causes."
https://www.mekomit.co.il/ps/134005/
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in reply to anonymiss • • •Number of civilian casualties doesn’t “prove” it’s a genocide.
I’ve seen this type of argument time after time, where someone will claim that “this” does not prove "that". Proofs are for mathematicians. Proof is not the point here – but the numbers are the point.
tomgrzybow
in reply to anonymiss • • •I also think getting hung up on whether the word applies or not isn’t the most important thing; it’s stopping the horror.
Precisely.
tomgrzybow
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in reply to anonymiss • • •Emmanuel Florac
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No, Israel has been ignoring HUNDREDS of UN resolutions for 50 YEARS. Plus Netanyahu HIMSELF admitted in helping Hamas to help split Palestinians in two.
This sort of lies isn't admissible anymore. Stop lying.
Emmanuel Florac
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in reply to anonymiss • • •Kurt Lupin
in reply to anonymiss • • •You can criticise Israel's policies just as you can criticise palestinian terror against Israel, both are closely linked. But you cannot criticise one independently of the other, because that is one-sided and if it is against Israel, anti-semitic. doubting Israel's raison d'être is anti-semitic. calling the war a genocide even though it is not is anti-semitic. I don't know what scares me more, anti-Semitism or the stupidity that turns masses of leftists into anti-Semites. Israel has no choice but to destroy hamas. and they will do it. Hamas knew that. Hamas is responsible for every single death in this war and they could have ended it at any time. But hamas doesn't care about the victims, they have the religious goal of wiping out Israel. The Palestinians will not... Show more...
You can criticise Israel's policies just as you can criticise palestinian terror against Israel, both are closely linked. But you cannot criticise one independently of the other, because that is one-sided and if it is against Israel, anti-semitic. doubting Israel's raison d'être is anti-semitic. calling the war a genocide even though it is not is anti-semitic. I don't know what scares me more, anti-Semitism or the stupidity that turns masses of leftists into anti-Semites. Israel has no choice but to destroy hamas. and they will do it. Hamas knew that. Hamas is responsible for every single death in this war and they could have ended it at any time. But hamas doesn't care about the victims, they have the religious goal of wiping out Israel. The Palestinians will not find peace as long as they are led by religious terrorists. The world will not find peace as long as ANYONE is led by religious or far-right political fanatics.
Kurt Lupin
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in reply to anonymiss • • •@Kurt Lupin > The world will not find peace as long as ANYONE is led by religious or far-right political fanatics.
You mean like the fascists who currently govern Israel? Welcome to the bozo bin.
Kurt Lupin
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in reply to anonymiss • • •Former ICJ President dispels misconception on court's ruling
By JERUSALEM POST STAFF (The Jerusalem Post)erdu
in reply to anonymiss • • •Support a fascist-religious terror organisation
Typical George Bush imbecilic reasoning: “You're either with us or against us”.
I can't stand Muslim terrorist religious fascists any more than I can Jewish terrorist religious fascists. On the other hand, I choose the camp of the oppressed against the oppressor, the camp of the colonized against the colonizer, the camp of the weak against the strong.
instead of a democratic state
Just to remind you, Hamas was elected in the Gaza Strip (just as Fatah was elected in the West Bank). When they realized they wouldn't win the next elections, they postponed them, then came the war and finally the genocide. So to say that the Gazans supported Hamas is a pure lie “Made in Israel”.
Now, if you think that we (USA, France, Israel, etc.) are in a democracy, you're appallingly innocent. And even if we were and they weren't, that doesn't excuse the ongoing genocide.
i am tired of your stupid antisemitic rhetorical games
... Show more...oh please. This well-worn t
Support a fascist-religious terror organisation
Typical George Bush imbecilic reasoning: “You're either with us or against us”.
I can't stand Muslim terrorist religious fascists any more than I can Jewish terrorist religious fascists. On the other hand, I choose the camp of the oppressed against the oppressor, the camp of the colonized against the colonizer, the camp of the weak against the strong.
instead of a democratic state
Just to remind you, Hamas was elected in the Gaza Strip (just as Fatah was elected in the West Bank). When they realized they wouldn't win the next elections, they postponed them, then came the war and finally the genocide. So to say that the Gazans supported Hamas is a pure lie “Made in Israel”.
Now, if you think that we (USA, France, Israel, etc.) are in a democracy, you're appallingly innocent. And even if we were and they weren't, that doesn't excuse the ongoing genocide.
i am tired of your stupid antisemitic rhetorical games
oh please. This well-worn tactic of defending Israel by calling anyone who criticizes them anti-Semitic allows them to go against international law and continue their colonization with the very religious goal of a greater Israel. It seems that people are finally opening their eyes and realizing the deception (except for people like you, whose Islamophobia blinds them).
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Kw7FJ9y8m4M
the UN resolution of 1947, which determined the partition of Palestine and the establishment of a Jewish and an Arab state, the Arab/Palestinian side has disqualified itself with terror.
Jews represented around 10% of the Palestinian population at the beginning of the century, rising to 30% by the end of the Second World War following the genocide they suffered at the hands of the Nazis. For millennia, they had lived together without the slightest problem. Anti-Semitism came from Europe, mainly Russia. The 1947 resolution gave 56% of the territory of Palestine to the Jews and 42% to the Arabs, and not even in contiguous territory. In short, Europe is making the Arabs of Palestine pay for their mistakes, and you want them to accept this? Not to mention Israel, which colonizes them a little more every day for the sake of its own interests.
But hamas doesn’t care about the victims, they have the religious goal of wiping out Israel.
Exactly the same shit with the zionists that want to wipe out the arabs from their land to make their fucking religious great Israel.
The Palestinians will not find peace as long as they are led by religious terrorists.
Just change the word palestinian with Israelis and you have the same thing except that one is the occupied and the other is the colon.
The IJC concluded that the gaza war is not a genocide.
You're talking about the institution created by the United Nations. The same United Nations that decided on the unjust partition of Palestine?
The same international court that failed to condemn the USA for the war in Iraq, when their sole aim was oil. Are you that innocent or stupid?
Try to get out of your Western way of thinking and judge things globally. Let me remind you, for example, that Hamas is considered a terrorist organization by the West, but many countries in South America, Africa and Asia see them as resisting occupation.
I’ll unfollow and block you.
I am sur eshe is crying for such a loss...
start to think
I was about to ask you, but more importantly, to question your islamophobia.
erdu
in reply to anonymiss • • •islamist terrorist government hamas uses civilians as human shields
Won't it be Israel propaganda just like UNRWA or beheaded babies ?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/13/what-is-a-human-shield-and-why-is-israel-using-the-term-in-gaza
Unrwa
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/22/israeli-allegations-of-unrwa-staff-links-to-terrorism-cost-aid-agency-dearly
40 beheaded babies:
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2024/04/03/40-beheaded-babies-the-itinerary-of-a-rumor-at-the-heart-of-the-information-battle-between-israel-and-hamas_6667274_8.html
Israel still has no proof of Unrwa terrorist claims – but damage to aid agency is done
Julian Borger (The Guardian)Emmanuel Florac
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