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I've been thinking a lot about the #Fediverse ALT issue.

Some people are annoyed by posts without #Alttext, & others get remindedΒΉ to add it.

The core question is: How can we improve #accessibility?

Proposal:
β˜‘οΈ Add a user filter to hide media posts without #AltTag
β˜‘οΈ Reduced engagement on hidden posts would encourage adding #Alt text
β˜‘οΈ People who need accessibility wouldn't have to encounter unlabeled media

If this gets traction, I'll open a #Mastodon GitHub issue.

ΒΉ mastodon.social/@madeindex/113…

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

My userContent.css makes a thick red dashed border around "non-alted" images, but mine is just a workaround.

The idea of the filter is far better, IMHO.

in reply to rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua

@GustavinoBevilacqua Haha that is such a good argument to change something about it!

I will add something along the lines of: "Users are are having to rely on their own workarounds" and link to your reply :)

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

Oh, I also hide the boosts made by myself!

Since I'm a "serial booster", this keeps my home TL shorter.

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

As a blind user, I'd be glad to filter posts without alt text in the home timeline. Like, let them be in my list of favorite users, but not in the huge home timeline.
in reply to AndrΓ© Polykanine

@menelion That's a good point! I will add it as an extra filter option to the GitHub suggestion and link to your reply :)
in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

I'm sighted, but I would use a hide filter for media. I don't boost or like anything without #AltTxt
in reply to nineofseven

@nineofseven Yes, it's very good :)
I also like it:
mastodon.social/@madeindex/113…
in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

Interesting ideas.

The Moshidon mobile client red flags images without alt text if you set it to do that.

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

I'm skeptical that "reduced" engagement would be a compelling argument or difference.

Is "engagement" the thing that most people think of when posting? It's a very capitalistic way of thinking of communicating with fellow humans.

I'm also reminded of Goodhart's Law: a measure that becomes a target ceases to be a good measure.

A different social network tried to encourage folks to write engaging replies and said they instead saw an increase in filler text (spaces, dots, "this").

in reply to Russell

@zimzat You have a point, however I do think people want engagement, as you post to get a reply or reaction of any kind right?

I did not get that part about the spaces dots and this though! Can you please explain? :)

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

engadget.com/twitter-ends-quot…

> The use of Quote Tweets increased, but 45 percent of them included single-word affirmations and 70 percent had less than 25 characters,

I, personally, don't want massive engagement. I dislike the idea of parasocial relationships. But that's just me and I grew up avoiding attention and preferring quieter, personable, connections. Others may want more than I do, but past a certain point too popular inherently becomes antithetical to the Fediverse ethos.

in reply to MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ

Do you use a screen reader? If not, have you consulted with those who do?

The reason I ask is because, most ideas like this that I see come from people who don't use screen readers and haven't consulted with people who do.

One thing about alt text is, when there is an image that doesn't need alt text, it is better that the image doesn't have alt text, so that the screen reader doesn't have to read it out. E.g. "Check out this photo of my new puppy! He's a brown poodle and he's 14 weeks old." Alt text: Photo. 14-week-old brown poodle puppy.

(I haven't used a screen reader, this is just something I read in a guide about how to write alt text.)

in reply to Cassian [main]

Yeah trying to get some feedback before I post a ticket! πŸ™‚

Although I guess if someone doesn't like it, they can simply not opt-in to the feature right?

Somebody said they would like it in their home but not their favorites list: dragonscave.space/@menelion/11…


As a blind user, I'd be glad to filter posts without alt text in the home timeline. Like, let them be in my list of favorite users, but not in the huge home timeline.

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MadeInDex πŸ“°πŸŒŽ
@mpb glad you like it, it looks cool, will make an account and check out out when I have some time friend :))
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