True dat, at least for mastodon instances. Not sure about other ways into the fediverse, but it wouldn’t surprise me to find there’s some with the rss feeds disabled and other ways to preserve privacy, but it’s not really in the spirit of the thing.
The only way to preserve privacy entirely is to turn off federation, and make authentication a requirement for viewing posts. But even then, if someone is motivated, they can access your feed.
That said, the reason I brought this up is because many people are under the mistaken impression that de-federation prevents Threads and other entities from accessing your (public) posts.
And here’s one of your posts as seen from an RSS reader.
If you want to de-federate Threads because you don’t like them, that’s fine. But if your objective is to prevent Meta from accessing your public posts, de-federation doesn’t do that.
It works for me (although the content-type is apparently not set right, so you have to download the file and then open it again -- but a scraper wouldn't care, I don't think).
@woozle That’s because whatever client (browser) you’re using can’t render that content. A script (“scraper”) that reads it won’t be prompted to download the file.
It’s possible the content-type header is wrong. If it’s text/xml or application/xml, Firefox will probably show you the raw XML, with syntax highlighting.
@ralf @ramsey I'd like to see more web sites offer ActivityPub feeds for their updates. It seems to me that's a much better way of offering subscriptions than the custom-built/emails thing (and maybe better than RSS?).
Chris Trottier
in reply to Böckli 平凡札記 :mastodon: • • •Here’s your RSS feed:
https://social.boeckli.net/@boeckli.rss
And here’s a screenshot of your posts as seen from an RSS reader.
Dave Polaschek
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Dave Polaschek • • •The only way to preserve privacy entirely is to turn off federation, and make authentication a requirement for viewing posts. But even then, if someone is motivated, they can access your feed.
That said, the reason I brought this up is because many people are under the mistaken impression that de-federation prevents Threads and other entities from accessing your (public) posts.
James
in reply to Böckli 平凡札記 :mastodon: • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to James • • •Here’s your RSS feed:
https://beige.party/@james.rss
And here’s one of your posts as seen from an RSS reader.
If you want to de-federate Threads because you don’t like them, that’s fine. But if your objective is to prevent Meta from accessing your public posts, de-federation doesn’t do that.
Woozle Hypertwin
in reply to Böckli 平凡札記 :mastodon: • • •Ben Ramsey
in reply to Woozle Hypertwin • • •Woozle Hypertwin
in reply to Ben Ramsey • • •@ramsey
Ahh. Ok. That's a downgrade; Ffox used to be able to handle RSS feeds very nicely, iirc.
...or at least it would show when a page had a feed associated with it (that feature went away years ago, for dubious reasons).
Ben Ramsey
in reply to Woozle Hypertwin • • •@woozle Ah, yeah. The death of RSS. 🙂
It’s possible the content-type header is wrong. If it’s text/xml or application/xml, Firefox will probably show you the raw XML, with syntax highlighting.
Woozle Hypertwin
in reply to Ben Ramsey • • •(See other thread-fork -- it's set right; Ffox just doesn't know what to do with it.
Woozle Hypertwin (@woozle@toot.cat)
Toot.CatBen Ramsey
in reply to Woozle Hypertwin • • •Ralf Lenz, BOFH Emeritus 🏴☠️
in reply to Ben Ramsey • • •@ramsey @woozle
Yeah, about a year ago I was messing with all sorts of content importing, and it saddens me how few sites still have RSS feeds.
They seem to have replaced it with the universally-hated "subscribe to our newsletter" full-screen modal.
Ben Ramsey
in reply to Ralf Lenz, BOFH Emeritus 🏴☠️ • • •Ralf Lenz, BOFH Emeritus 🏴☠️
in reply to Ben Ramsey • • •I agree, but I had to get a bunch of the stuff I wanted from feedspot and then shove that into a parser. It was a pain in the ass.
Woozle Hypertwin
in reply to Ralf Lenz, BOFH Emeritus 🏴☠️ • • •I'd like to see more web sites offer ActivityPub feeds for their updates. It seems to me that's a much better way of offering subscriptions than the custom-built/emails thing (and maybe better than RSS?).
Ralf Lenz, BOFH Emeritus 🏴☠️
in reply to Woozle Hypertwin • • •I think that would be cool as well, but RSS has been around for 25 years and is well established.
Chris Trottier
in reply to Ralf Lenz, BOFH Emeritus 🏴☠️ • • •