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What many people misunderstand about hosting your own content (like this social media instance) is thinking we somehow NEED a big audience or Big Tech involvement.

I'm perfectly fine if the world faded away and it was just the thousand of us here. It's like the early days of the web when we had small forums, nobody missed Reddit back then. Federation is a big plus, not a requirement.

It's the same with websites or IRC for me. I know people use Discord, but I still stick to IRC even if there are only about a hundred of us left. I know people use AI now and website visitors are dropping, but who cares? I still keep doing it for those who like to read.

I don't need the whole world involved for this to feel worthwhile. It's mine, I own it, and I host it for as long as I breathe. After that, it won't matter to me anymore, but I hope other admins keep things running the way I did.

#SelfHosted #SelfHosting #OpenSource #Fediverse #Mastodon #OpenWeb #SocialWeb

in reply to Rolle Laukkarinen

Missäs päin IRCiä on vielä aktiivista? Lopetin joskus kun oma piiri hiljeni (varmaan samaan aikaan kun TKY:n nyyssit lopetettiin)
in reply to mkouhia

@mkouhia pulina.fi
in reply to Riku Voipio

@suihkulokki Olin siellä jonkin aikaa, mutta siltabotti häiritsee liikaa. Ilmeisesti suurin osa Matrixin puolella. Lisäksi heillä on mielestäni liikaa kanavia ja pirstaloitunutta keskustelua. @mkouhia
in reply to Sebastiaan Ammerlaan 🇳🇱

@bammerlaan Sure, but people like Facebook and WhatsApp. I'm on neither, so that's why I don't have many friends, except for the new Fedi ones 😅
in reply to Rolle Laukkarinen

let me strongly disagree re the big audience. imo that's the entire point of decentralized social media. the entire world as our audience is the goal. for everyone to participate in deciding what info, ideas and art deserves attention. to steal that power back from the wealthy, the owners of mass media and social media platforms and advertisers.

being public with boosts is what's special here. forums etc imo should be called social networking. vital but they serve a different purpose.

in reply to william ⁂ maggos

@wjmaggos Of course, but I'm talking about the end goal here. In my opinion, the idea that "we must have critical mass to succeed" is wrong.

I know I reach thousands of people, more than on most social media platforms. But that's not the point. If the Fediverse starts dying out, it doesn't bother me. That's what I'm trying to say here.

in reply to Rolle Laukkarinen

so we have different goals. thus different definitions of success.

I'm much less interested in my own reach or perhaps finding personal connections. I'll probably never be happy based on my own stats, but would be very happy with very few followers if when people thought and talked about social media, they meant fedi. imo that would be good for society.

in reply to william ⁂ maggos

@wjmaggos But why? Why is it so important to "win" as a social media platform? I used to think the same way when I moved here from Twitter, but after a few years, I've come to realize it was never about that. The web will always be scattered.

They even interviewed me back in 2022 in Finnish in my CTO role, calling Mastodon "the new rival for Twitter." Now that feels funny. I see this and other publishing platforms just like my old website back in 1998.

Social media has always been all over the place. I just hope people would understand the ethics around big tech platforms. But I know they won't. The world will burn before that happens.

in reply to Rolle Laukkarinen

💯 The Fediverse doesn't work very well for social media influencer-types who *need* to game the algorithm to be successful.
in reply to WTL

@WTL I can’t stress it out enough, but I really hope this influencer and content creator bubble will collapse rather sooner than later. No you one needs these influencers and this sort of content they create. I’m afraid it’s an indicator for the general mental state of the average internet user.
@WTL
in reply to Rolle Laukkarinen

in reply to Rolle Laukkarinen

i like your sentiment but i carefully disagree about the big audience. small community is great and ultimately we all can interact only with quite limited number of people. but it is only good if it is a community that you like. if you are part of the "normal" majority you can probably make almost any community work for you. if you are a bit "strange" minority you might need to comb through comparatively large number of people before you find those that you can bond with. and it's this process (finding your small community) where big audience is important. people and communities constantly change and reform... when you discover something new about yourself you will have it much easier if you can yell it out and hear others like you shout back.
in reply to grepe

@grepe Hmm. I'm a bit of a strange person and found around 7k of my likes here on the Fediverse. If "the audience" gets smaller, so be it. Thankfully, the internet is full of people. What I'm saying is, if it ever shrinks one day, I don't really mind.
in reply to Rolle Laukkarinen

well, that's much easier to say when you have thousands of followers... most of us here (or anywhere) get exactly zero engagement for most of our posts. and i get it, i dropped fb, reddit and other mainstream social media because i think the algorithm has too much power over me, but i also get why most people stay - imho they simply desire validation and connection. those are either hard earned or easily faked...
in reply to Rolle Laukkarinen

Do you have suggestions for a good irc client these days? I have not found anything that is both maintained and decent. I miss irc
in reply to Kris

@kris thelounge.chat (needs some work to install but it's beautiful)

halloy.chat

I use irssiproxy with Beeper: beeper.com

@Kris
in reply to Rolle Laukkarinen

I posted about the same idea not so long ago.

mastodon.social/@the_wub/11635…