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RE: chaos.social/@EinsPossum/11687…

Why is it always the fucking Germans? It’s not enough that your fucking government is the world’s #2 arms dealer to Israel and your whole fucking country is complicit in genocide but you have to try and cut off the last lifeline many Palestinians suffering genocide have to get help from the outside world.

Fuck you, you heartless, inhumane pieces of shit.

in reply to Aral Balkan

This is the second time I've experienced unsubstantiated negative comments from chaos.social. I hope it's not a trend
in reply to kali

@kali @david
FWIW: We do not block that (or any other) hashtag! That hashtag is treated no different than all hashtags from our POV (i.e., we do not moderate hashtags at all).

When I (@rixx ) am logged in, I see plenty of posts under the hashtag. Zero idea why they don't show up on the public page, but it's not through any admin action on our end. Screenshot of the hashtag in our moderator interface + a random other hashtag attached.)

in reply to @ordnung

@kali @david
We get a lot of reports for spam/donation requests in general. A couple of months ago, we muted accounts with a gazaverified link in their bio -- we reversed this decision when a user pointed this out to us, and have since taken great care to *not* take any moderation action against accounts with the gazaverified profile link, literally part of our mod checklist.

(I can't guarantee that we never get this wrong, but we're happy to fix mistakes if people talk to us.)

in reply to @ordnung

@ordnung @kali @david glad you have. I can't say the same for infosec.exchange. They're overtly hostile to any opposition to genocide and hide all Gaza accounts, verified or not
in reply to sortius

@sortius @ordnung @kali @david Granted, that's the least of the problems.

Jerry is powertrippin' af...
- I speak from experience!

in reply to TelH90

@kkarhan @ordnung @kali @david tell me about it. Why do you think I am where I am now? Jerry personally nuked my account.

It's not a safe instance, at all. I'd bock it if I didn't know so many people there.

in reply to sortius

@sortius @kkarhan @kali Meanwhile, whenever I see a nasty account while logged in to my Infosec account and want to report it from my Hachyderm account, I see that Hachyderm has already blocked the nasty account instance-wide.

It seems to me that infosec is very insufficiently moderated. But apparently Infosec mutes all genuine (and verified) genocide victims.

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in reply to David Culley

@davidculley @kkarhan @kali @david yeh, look, there's a heap of tech-based instances that are not just sloppy with their moderation, but it's clear they have a regime of being overtly hostile to Palestinians.

I suspect it's "we want to keep our jobs" kinda thing, but if your job relies on placating Israelis and their genocide, it's not a job worth having

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in reply to Aral Balkan

I understand your feelings but please don't over-generalize it. Not all of us agree with this politics. Being sorry for ww2 does not rectify what's happening in Palestina and the other countries around it
in reply to Aral Balkan

There were two other Germans in his replies who agreed with him that they also muted GazaVerified Palestinians and started thinking about reporting them additionally, for scamming.

I explained in German to the Germans what GazaVerified is and does, that they even verify the IP addresses to be in Gaza, and that I personally talk with Palestinians every day. Something they could do too. They could ask for their Signal number and have video calls with Palestinians. If they are convinced that #GazaVerified is a scam operation, then they must call me a scammer too because I vouch for the Palestinians.

hachyderm.io/@davidculley/1168…

The Germans literally replied that they don't care if the GazaVerified volunteers let themselves get tricked by AI. The Germans don't care, they remain convinced that GazaVerified is a scam.

It was wasted effort trying to convince these Germans. I then blocked all of them.

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in reply to Aral Balkan

I believe most germans only watch Tagesschau - the national news, they only show the Israeli perspective. I truly believe germans are good people but brainwashed. So they have no idea what is happening in Palestine. The ones who know: some are a bit uneducated and scared of muslims and some prioritize other issues like climate change, so they would vote for the green party (wo want to deliver weapons to support Israels genocide) just to protect the environment. But I don't know.
in reply to Andrada

@Andrada
"I truly believe germans are good people but brainwashed. So they have no idea what is happening in Palestine."

Sounds familiar?
I truly believe germans are good people but brainwashed. So they have no idea what happened in the death camps.

Every German knows what their country is involved in with the Israelis because they've voted for it since 1950. Stop making fucking excuses for them while posting stuff on the mass murder and genocide that they have directly profited from.

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in reply to Ken M Sweeney

@TheComfortableSpotPodcast would you say the same about the British, look what their government is doing. Are all the British Nazis? All humans are the same, good and bad, let's stop mass criminalizing people based on politicians. What individuals do is what matters. Things are changing. people start to be more informed and realize the national news is shit and we need information from other sources. I understand what you are saying, it just applies to the whole world, not just Germans.
in reply to Andrada

Oddly, the folks on the fediverse actively trying to take away one of the last lifelines that Palestinians suffering genocide have right now don’t appear to be German politicians but everyday Germans. And yes, nine times out of ten, in my experience so far, it’s been a German. So yeah, as someone else said in this thread: instead of being butthurt, fix your shit.

PS. Everyone knows it’s not all Germans. Some of my best friends are German. But this isn’t a problem limited to “politicians”. So please don’t gaslight us about that.

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in reply to Aral Balkan

@TheComfortableSpotPodcast sorry, there are racist idiots everywhere. There is also a defamation campaign from Israel about not helping Palestinians, and even bots on Mastodon. Not all who appear as germans truly are germans or real people. As I found out recently there is a group called "anti deutsche" who absolutely love Israel and Zionists and hate germans and want to punish all for the Holocaust. I don't mean to gaslight, it is very sad and serious what is happening.
in reply to Andrada

@Andrada
"would you say the same about the British, look what their government is doing."

You're joking right...?
You do know I'm Irish and 800 years of occupation tends to leave you with a certain opinion but if you want, you could say the same about any colonial power but what you're forgetting is that Germany openly and nationally supports Israel unconditionally.

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in reply to Ken M Sweeney

@TheComfortableSpotPodcast You are right. Probably in order to have hope, I want to believe all humans are the same and that manipulation and ideology is what makes us to monsters, not our DNA. And I hope there is a chance in the future for humanity to be equal and fair.
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in reply to Andrada

@Andrada @TheComfortableSpotPodcast “manipulation and ideology is what makes us to monsters, not our DNA” – I don’t think anyone here is saying anything otherwise.

Germany is a state. “German” is an ideology. All nationalities are ideologies.

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@ordnung @kali @david too many scammers griftes steal donations to gaza Palestine via fake chuffed and gofundme scams imho
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@LukefromDC @ordnung@chaos.social @david

I did some research and the entire gazaverified project seems suspicious and only verified by
"Signal phone call" , take my word for it.

The Italian coder working on it is employed by Booking. Com

theguardian.com/world/ng-inter…

fabiomanganiello.com/about#pro…

Scammers steal identity of real Gaza doctor to trick people out of online donations
inews.co.uk/news/how-online-sc…

Sorry Aral. Seems highly fake.

I recommend to Donate to WearThePeace, or ShopPalestine.org

Or
mecaforapeace.org
Or
UNRWA

donate.unrwa.org/int/en/genera…

in reply to farmbiodiesielUtopias

@farmbiodiesielUtopias @ordnung @kali @david I presume that is the exact reason for the Gaza verification system: to identify real Gaza accounts so they can be distinguished from any fakes.