I think in many ways it has died in the sense of no longer the pages we used to visit are useful.

The good news is that the new generation of web has already started. Right now there is almost an alternative to every mainstream platform.

I believe that due to these new platforms not announced on main platforms (remember when people announced that they were leaving for Mastodon and they tried to prevent other users from seeing it?) Its hard to reach all of the new target audience

@MadeInDex 📰🌎 if ai slop is taking over the internet then ai will choke on itsself. because ai feeding on the content of the internet and ruminating already processed ai slop will lead to a model collapse. so ai will either be totally easy to spot after this collapse, or the ai companies will have to develop a way to identify ai slop and avoid it. this ability will then become common knowledge and a kind of equilibrium will develop ...

Nature: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07566-y

 Analysis shows that indiscriminately training generative artificial intelligence on real and generated content, usually done by scraping data from the Internet, can lead to a collapse in the ability of the models to generate diverse high-quality out…

AI models collapse when trained on recursively generated data - Nature

^Nature

"AI" already damaged the open internet because to produce slop you first need to pilfer every accessible pool of information, and that brings down servers😥

But there is no point crying, in a sense some of this disruption was inevitable, it's a tipping point created by all of us making a lot of good digital information, code, art etc. available.

It's been exploited by bad actors but we need to really think what good actors would do. Screaming "fire" is at best the first step.

Wow never even heard of that issue before, learning so many new things today, thank you very much for sharing that with me ❤

My solution would be to ask or pay #Google to share their "data analyzation" algorithm:
mastodon.social/@madeindex/116…

If anyone can still distinguish #AI content from "real" content, it's very likely Google, as that has been at the core of their business model for so long.

MadeInDex 📰🌎

2026-03-10 09:08:07

@stephan324ppm

I think Google's algorithm is the only one that might still be able to distinguish artificial and "real" content, however #Google fully embraces #AI, so they will probably never share it.

I have been running a wiki for more than a decade for people to use as they see fit. Its no longer possible because for each person visiting you have ten thousand bots scrapping indiscriminately. Effectively I must pay for a server for the "AI" bros to build LLMs to serve the same information in chatbot format (and collect payment 😡 )

The wiki is now behind a login. But even that will not survive. LLM's impersonating real people (e.g by filling forms) is getting easier by the day.

oh, the bot traffic is substantially gone.

But once behind a login, old style search engines (google, bing etc.) don't index you either, so you effectively vanish.

Now the users are only people who already had bookmarked the wiki (and bother to request an account).

And since 95% have an gmail accounts, its again down to mama Google 🤦

You couldn't design a worse internet if you tried really hard.

yep, the landing page is like that already (and maybe there is more to think along this direction, like have some dedicated namespace that is public etc.)

But wikis (like wikipedia itself) were designed to be open. For a friendly collaborating internet, not a hostile one...

Not clear to me how we could ever restore that environment. People have not realized that it was not a given and if you don't nurture your nice things they die.