Former CEO of Twitter wanted to build a social protocol no-one can control, like SMTP or HTTP for social media. Bluesky’s ATProto was supposed to be an open source protocol that Twitter could eventually utilize, but then Musk happened and Bluesky started taking it to the wrong direction and everything fell apart in Dorsey’s mind.
A very revealing interview. I now see even more future in W3C’s ActivityPub.
https://www.piratewires.com/p/interview-with-jack-dorsey-mike-solana
#ActivityPub #JackDorsey #Bluesky #Twitter #X #SocialWeb #SocialMedia
An Interview With Jack Dorsey
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in reply to Roni Laukkarinen • • •I must wonder… if Dorsey truly wants to build something open, non-commercial and decentralized, why doesn’t he even look at the ActivityPub? Why not help it thrive? What’s all that fuss about Bluesky and Nostr?
#Fediverse #ActivityPub #JackDorsey
a goat‽
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen • • •Bluesky: because he wants to continue providing addicts their fix... And because he doesn't control ActivityPub, and can't re-form it in his image.
Nostr: because he is a Bitcoin-obsessed crypto bro
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in reply to a goat‽ • • •Laimis
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen • • •don't expect rational reasoning from him. Dorsi to me is very similar to Balaji, too much wealth allowed them to surround themselves with a tight circle of "anti-state" morons and their thinking has been drifting to an irrational place that they can remain in for a long time because of the immense wealth they posses. They think they are all seeing all knowing prophets.
Things like activitypub is beneath Dorsi, not created by him or his crypto idealists.
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen • • •I can't speak for JD, but I have talked to others who are either more into Farcaster or more into nostr (rather than the Fediverse), and I've talked to them about the Fediverse.
I have noticed some commonalities in what they said —
№1:
They believe that a significant part of the Fediverse is anti-commece.
They feel that commerce and payments are important.
№2:
They don't trust the servers controlling their identity and presence.
They feel it should be independent from any server.
Gareth Kitchen
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What is Farcaster? A Beginner's Guide (2024)
Juan Leal (thirdweb)Roni Laukkarinen
in reply to Gareth Kitchen • • •@gruff @reiver Wow, this is the first time I hear about Farcaster.
So… now we have 4 protocols which all try to achieve the ”truly decentralized social web”:
- ActivityPub
- ATProto
- Farcaster
- Nostr
What a mess
#ActivityPub #Fediverse #ATProto #Nostr #Bluesky #Farcaster
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in reply to Roni Laukkarinen • • •@gruff @reiver Time to make a new protocol to fix the mess!
Now there are five protocols.
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in reply to Androcat • • •Laurens Hof
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Farcaster is definitely worth knowing about if youre interested in the current state of the SNS protocols; its got between 40k and 50k DAU, which is ~4 times as large as nostr (and somewhere between 5 times and 10 times smaller than fediverse)
It is very heavily the nft/web3 crowd. Obviously not my type of people, but I do think they're capable of getting the next style twitter migration, namely cryptotwitter
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Also the standards
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in reply to Roni Laukkarinen • • •yes, it's me, liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦
in reply to Roni Laukkarinen • • •LAUREN
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in reply to Roni Laukkarinen • • •Tom :damnified:
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in reply to Roni Laukkarinen • • •heavy emphasis on "Dorsey's mind", everything indicates he didn't even study Bluesky's protocol. The differences to Nostr he trumpets aren't significant.
I still prefer services where I know where my browser is connected, like Mastodon.
If you've tried Nostr, many of those web clients connect to tens of servers, some really dodgy sounding. You are basically spraying your IP everywhere, and your IP might be receiving highly unwanted content...
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