The rift b/w the #US and its #NorthAmerican, neighbors, #Canada and Mexico, offers huge chances for a new world order.
As #MAGA #DonaldTrump singlehandedly keeps alienating the US stauchest, quite like erstwhile Allies, the remaining #NATO members can reshape the Alliance to their purposes
Furthermore, amalgamating the economies of the other 2 erstwhile #European colonies to the #EU might even...
Time is of the essence. It might be an idea to ratify #CETA and the newly renegotiated #GlobalAgreementWithMexico ASAP. Then, a deepening of this FTA, similar to...
Furthermore, the EU and Mexico have a FTA in place that they've been working on to expand/upgrade for years. Negotiations were concluded this year, with the usual national procedures now running. policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-t…
I am aware of that, but added this after reading your post, as it made me I realize that my thread was too "sclerotic" in this respect. Also, I omitted the Mexico deal, a neglicience on my part. I'll try to fix this, this strategy is important. [ETA: done]
It is very hard in Mastodon to amend a thread due to the quite severe character limit. I tried anyway, though.
Also, I think the defense dimension is included now, as I'm talking about a #DefenseUnion. This neglected foster child of #EU integration, due to the #US' #NuclearUmbrella and #NATO had made all members non-American members too complacent for decades,..
It is very hard in Mastodon to amend a thread due to the quite severe character limit. I tried anyway, though.
Also, I think the defense dimension is included now, as I'm talking about a #DefenseUnion. This neglected foster child of #EU integration, due to the #US' #NuclearUmbrella and #NATO had made all members non-American members too complacent for decades,..
It is very hard in Mastodon to amend a thread due to the quite severe character limit. I tried anyway, though.
Also, I think the defense dimension is included now, as I'm talking about a #DefenseUnion. This neglected foster child of #EU integration, due to the #US' #NuclearUmbrella and #NATO had made all members non-American members too complacent for decades,..
Lastly, in my view, even though the #DefenseUnion seems to have been the most difficult dimension for #EU to integrate, this mustn't be the case for the #EU and the non-US #NATO members.
In fact, #NATO proves that a Defense Union can be pursued independently from all other dimension.
...though international trade integration has proven to be a great success, it has not stopped the polarization of the globe. In contrast, it has given rise to another dimension in antagonism, that if multinational corporations .
Agree on the complacency. Finland and Sweden with their historically diffent approach did better but while being clear on the Russian threat, they also had a blind spot about the fascistic broligarchy in the US and their target(s).
And don't get me started re: the complacency of Ireland and Austria.
You are not saying this, but just for the benefit of others: #Finland and #Sweden became #NATO members only in 2023. #Austria is a "neutral" country. Of #Türkiye, only a small part of #Istambul is #European.--So the complacency statement about #NATO' #Eoropean members holds true.
It's also worth mentioning that Denmark had opted out of EU defense initiatives as they felt NATO sufficed and any EU ambitions were overreach. But shortly after Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Denmark held a referendum to join in.
So yeah, complacency everywhere, with few notable exceptions, and Macron being the obvious example.
Alas, #Macron is no visionary, precognitive leader like Président #CharlesDeGaulle was. With today's hindsight, he rightly distrusted the #Americans:
"In May 1944, de Gaulle told a Soviet official “ regarding his view of the #US, "As for #America, it wanted a “docile France to make it a base for their #European policy.”1)
"“After the war,” he said in 1942, 👉“it will be necessary to give...
...#Europe a sense of herself; if not, American political administrators will come to colonize Europe with their primitive methods and their overweening pride. 👈They will treat us all as if were negroes in Senegal! To rebuild Europe, we will need #Germany, but a Germany that has been first defeated, unlike the situation in 1918.”1)
Despite his disdain for multi-party democracies, 👉#DeGaulle..."👉was also a resolute European. In the postwar era, he hoped to fashion a... @proscience
...new and strong #Europe, led by #France, that would be “1st in the world”;👉 a Europe “not dominated by either the Russians or the Americans.”👈
And he was one of the early thinkers of a #EuropeOfRegions: He envisioned a “Europe of fatherlands,” and specifically denounced a “hybrid” #Europe that would not recognize and seek to preserve the distinctive national characters and cultural contributions of Italy, France, Germany and the other European nations." 1) @proscience
...He demanded and got a new #French constitution with a strong executive, which established the “Fifth Republic” that has endured to the present."1)
"👉Charles #deGaulle recognized from the beginning that nuclear bomb would have immense consequences...👈 By the end of his two‐decade ’nuclear learning process’, he was convinced that the #bomb would have profound effects on how statesmen...
No figure of modern French history is as honored as Charles de Gaulle. His name has been given to more streets, avenues and monuments in France than to any other man of the nation’s past. The country’s largest airport bears his name.
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#GeoPol #TrumpCoup #TrumpTariffs
#USpol #CANpoli #EUpol
You are very welcome.
Do you think such a Euro-North-American #FreeTradeArea, omitting the #MAGAmerica, would get a majority in #Canada?
My idea is to start deepening it towards a #DefenseUnion and other areas, similar to precursors of the #EU.
mastodon.social/@HistoPol/1141…
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2025-03-06 21:58:50
ProScience
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •CETA exists and while not entirely ratified, is provisionally implemented. See here policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-t….
Furthermore, the EU and Mexico have a FTA in place that they've been working on to expand/upgrade for years. Negotiations were concluded this year, with the usual national procedures now running.
policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-t…
EU-Canada
Trade and Economic SecurityHistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to ProScience • • •I am aware of that, but added this after reading your post, as it made me I realize that my thread was too "sclerotic" in this respect.
Also, I omitted the Mexico deal, a neglicience on my part.
I'll try to fix this, this strategy is important. [ETA: done]
Thus thread will be a work in progress.
ProScience
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •IMHO it could have been misunderstood in the sense that nothing exists right now.
Furthermore, I'd that closer ties beyond trade matters (obviously security) are important.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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#DefenseUnion
#CETA
#GeoPol #TrumpCoup #TrumpTariffs
#USpol #CANpoli #EUpol
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Agree on both points.
It is very hard in Mastodon to amend a thread due to the quite severe character limit.
I tried anyway, though.
Also, I think the defense dimension is included now, as I'm talking about a #DefenseUnion.
This neglected foster child of #EU integration, due to the #US' #NuclearUmbrella and #NATO had made all members non-American members too complacent for decades,..
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to ProScience • • •@proscience
#DefenseUnion
#CETA
#GeoPol #TrumpCoup #TrumpTariffs
#USpol #CANpoli #EUpol
[1/2]
Agree on both points.
It is very hard in Mastodon to amend a thread due to the quite severe character limit.
I tried anyway, though.
Also, I think the defense dimension is included now, as I'm talking about a #DefenseUnion.
This neglected foster child of #EU integration, due to the #US' #NuclearUmbrella and #NATO had made all members non-American members too complacent for decades,..
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to ProScience • • •@proscience
#DefenseUnion
#CETA
#GeoPol #TrumpCoup #TrumpTariffs
#USpol #CANpoli #EUpol
[1/3]
Agree on both points.
It is very hard in Mastodon to amend a thread due to the quite severe character limit.
I tried anyway, though.
Also, I think the defense dimension is included now, as I'm talking about a #DefenseUnion.
This neglected foster child of #EU integration, due to the #US' #NuclearUmbrella and #NATO had made all members non-American members too complacent for decades,..
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •#DefenseUnion
#CETA
#GeoPol #TrumpCoup #TrumpTariffs
#USpol #CANpoli #EUpol
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....so it was never seriously developed.
Lastly, in my view, even though the #DefenseUnion seems to have been the most difficult dimension for #EU to integrate, this mustn't be the case for the #EU and the non-US #NATO members.
In fact, #NATO proves that a Defense Union can be pursued independently from all other dimension.
Even...
@proscience
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •@proscience
#DefenseUnion
#CETA
#GeoPol #TrumpCoup #TrumpTariffs
#USpol #CANpoli #EUpol
[3/3]
...though international trade integration has proven to be a great success, it has not stopped the polarization of the globe. In contrast, it has given rise to another dimension in antagonism, that if multinational corporations .
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ProScience
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •Agree on the complacency. Finland and Sweden with their historically diffent approach did better but while being clear on the Russian threat, they also had a blind spot about the fascistic broligarchy in the US and their target(s).
And don't get me started re: the complacency of Ireland and Austria.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to ProScience • • •@proscience
All agreed.
You are not saying this, but just for the benefit of others: #Finland and #Sweden became #NATO members only in 2023. #Austria is a "neutral" country. Of #Türkiye, only a small part of #Istambul is #European.--So the complacency statement about #NATO' #Eoropean members holds true.
ProScience
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •Absolutely.
It's also worth mentioning that Denmark had opted out of EU defense initiatives as they felt NATO sufficed and any EU ambitions were overreach.
But shortly after Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Denmark held a referendum to join in.
So yeah, complacency everywhere, with few notable exceptions, and Macron being the obvious example.
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#EUpol #DefenseUnion #France
#History #DeGaulle
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Again, agreed.
Alas, #Macron is no visionary, precognitive leader like Président #CharlesDeGaulle was. With today's hindsight, he rightly distrusted the #Americans:
"In May 1944, de Gaulle told a Soviet official “ regarding his view of the #US, "As for #America, it wanted a “docile France to make it a base for their #European policy.”1)
"“After the war,” he said in 1942, 👉“it will be necessary to give...
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...#Europe a sense of herself; if not, American political administrators will come to colonize Europe with their primitive methods and their overweening pride. 👈They will treat us all as if were negroes in Senegal! To rebuild Europe, we will need #Germany, but a Germany that has been first defeated, unlike the situation in 1918.”1)
Despite his disdain for multi-party democracies, 👉#DeGaulle..."👉was also a resolute European. In the postwar era, he hoped to fashion a... @proscience
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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...new and strong #Europe, led by #France, that would be “1st in the world”;👉 a Europe “not dominated by either the Russians or the Americans.”👈
And he was one of the early thinkers of a #EuropeOfRegions:
He envisioned a “Europe of fatherlands,” and specifically denounced a “hybrid” #Europe that would not recognize and seek to preserve the distinctive national characters and cultural contributions of Italy, France, Germany and the other European nations." 1)
@proscience
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 • • •#DefenseUnion
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...He demanded and got a new #French constitution with a strong executive, which established the “Fifth Republic” that has endured to the present."1)
"👉Charles #deGaulle recognized from the beginning that nuclear bomb would have immense consequences...👈
By the end of his two‐decade ’nuclear learning process’, he was convinced that the #bomb would have profound effects on how statesmen...
@proscience
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#History
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...provide great‐power status, respect, national independence, and political influence.2)
1)
unz.com/article/the-enduring-l…
2)
academic.oup.com/book/12875/ch… @proscience
The Enduring Legacy of a Great Man: Charles de Gaulle
The Unz ReviewSnowshadow 🇨🇦
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in reply to Snowshadow 🇨🇦 • • •That would have been my gut feeling, too.
ETA:
Sorry, I just had to amend the thread with the brand-new Mexico deal:
policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-t…
EU-Mexico
Trade and Economic SecuritySnowshadow 🇨🇦
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