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Open Letter to #Meta: Support True Messaging Interoperability with #XMPP

xmpp.org/announcements/open-le…

#DMA #privacy


There are no known security issues with "Siacs OMEMO" / OMEMO v0.3ΒΉ despite of what some very loud Signal fans would like you to believe. It has been audited by a third partyΒ² who took a longer look at it than all of the Signal fans combined.

Yes, #OMEMO v0.7+ (or TWOMEMO 😜) is a cleaner spec with more features (most notably Stanza Content Encryption). That’s why we wrote it. I’m a co-author. That doesn’t mean v0.3 is insecure.

ΒΉ: xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-…
Β²: conversations.im/omemo/audit.p…

#XMPP


@isadora LoL yeah... I tell them to not use Mark's #xmpp but mine. Or do they know or have direct access to that guy? or trust more in him than me ? 🀣


@isadora and then five years later you recommend them to use an amazing tech which will let them not only use their mobiles but also all their devices to talk with you πŸ€— plus they will have access to the amazing federated community of #xmpp


next step your own #xmpp server πŸ€—
#xmpp


#XSF Announcement

Today the #XMPP Standards Foundation publishes an Open Letter to urge #Meta to adopt XMPP for messaging #interoperability.

It’s time for real interoperability. Let’s make it happen.

xmpp.org/announcements/open-le…

#jabber #chat #rtc
#opensource #decentralization #standard #dma


#Signal is #centralized - just like #Twitter, #WhatsApp, #Telegram, #Threema, etc - and therefore exactly as vulnerable to #enshittification. Its popularity also makes it a tempting target for backdoors.

I urge people to use #XMPP instead, which is #federated like the Fediverse and has no single point of failure. It uses the same end-to-end encryption algorithm as Signal.

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Am I right, that none of them is fully #freeSoftware (#openSource), none of them is federated, and none has first class clients on other OSes than Google Android and Apple iOS?

There is an IETF standard for federated instant messenging, implemented by various servers and client applications since 1999. Why don't you promote that?

@xmpp

#Jabber #XMPP


Quicksy is a great #Jabber / #XMPP service (with Android and iOS clients), which is trivially easy to join. Uses phone numbers for registration.
quicksy.im/

@prav is a fork of Quicksy with only an Android client for now, but with message moderation and retraction support, a #cooperative structure, and better customer support.
prav.app/
Why Prav is Important
contrapunctus.codeberg.page/bl…

#Signal #WhatsApp #Telegram #Threema

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@debacle @thevril @pluralistic we need to own our means of communication. So we can guarantee it’s not being tampered with. And as such it can only be built on free and open standards.

#xmpp


@debacle @thevril @pluralistic

#XMPP #Messenger #SocialMedia ownership

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...described, would, strategically speaking, be an excellent solution for society to re-own its #DigitalMarketSquare, or as US film maker and storyteller #MatthewCooke, phrased it:

πŸ‘‰ "Should Society Own its Social Media"?

IMHO: OFC!!!πŸ‘ˆ

IMO, it is the chief requisite of maintaining its individual freedom!

mastodon.social/@HistoPol/1102…

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#XMPP #Messenger #SocialMedia ownership

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Thank you for the clarification. I did state (at least in the convo mentioned) that #XMPP is (but) a protocol.
The FOSS messenger(s) based on it, however, to my knowledge, are but niche apps for the technologically savvy.--No-one of my RL contacts has ever mentioned it (no a represantive sample, OFC.)

#Jabber, w/o having any further knowledge other than the superficial one...

@thevril @pluralistic


@thevril @pluralistic @kino

#SurveillanceState

πŸ‘‰Which #Messenger To Replace the #DataKraken #WhatsApp with? πŸ‘ˆ

#FightTechnofeudalism

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... I still have one, but πŸ‘‰federated #XMPP just somehow can't seem to take hold outside of its own niche" πŸ‘ˆ.

If you wanted to dig down even further, you'd get to the point where you'd have to deal with #Protocols:

eattherich.club/@jmhorner/1109…

A French πŸ‡«πŸ‡· librarian association made an...


@thevril

#SurveillanceState

πŸ‘‰Which #Messenger To Replace the #DataKraken #WhatsApp with? πŸ‘ˆ

#FightTechnofeudalism

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... I've pointed out in an older thread 🧡 here and Cory @pluralistic in a now famous speech about #Enshittification, there's the severe lock-in effect, the negative aspects of the #NetworkEffect.

There are #XMPP and #Matrix, the "ancient" and "obvious" #FOSS choices. I've never used them but from what I've read, they were never able to gain much market share and are...


@samuel verkligheten kring Matrix Γ€r att den Γ€r inte sΓ₯ decentraliserad som den ska. #xmpp finns!

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