Yep, we all know that despite his contributions to the feddiverse, which are good and valid, mark zuckerberg is still VERY SUS and his true motives are unclear 🤔

Let's wait and see

And here it is, the dark pattern at work....this threads integration is starting to go badly already....🤦‍♂️🙄

edit: and here's a threads engineer purposefully misconstruing the definition of dark patterns in a reply to me. https://social.beaware.live/@beaware.live@threads.net/112312317899201996 🤬

#Fedi #Fediverse #Threads #EEE #Meta #ActivityPub

what's even the benefit for a normal threads user to keep it on, if they can't get back interactions.

I simply don't get who ever can have a use case for this one way thing

@AAKL

That's an interesting conversation! Threads has to be all in on Fediverse or they lose all companion authority.

@SomeAnoTooter @AAKL

There was a big discussion on Threads a day or two ago about these "30 Day Popup" warnings and the people who know say they're a legal requirement in Europe. They're just following the law in providing those access warnings.

@SomeAnoTooter @AAKL

The 30 Day Pop Up isn't a big deal. Ads are coming to threads in a couple of months. Threads can be a good Twitter killer.

Reading threads and interacting there is dead -- I have no idea how some people have 130K followers.

One woman joked this morning that without the Bots, she'd have no followers. She was posting posed butt photos, and I wanted to ask if she mean "Bots" or "Butts!" but I didn't.

I don't think you can BUY Threads followers right now anyway.

@AAKL @david @SomeAnoTooter I have about 30 followers there but I was only there to push Fediverse. My big issue was that they have been going "Fedi bad, we have to tell people Fedi bad because it's bad!" And saying nothing about the GOOD of it. It's liked planned obsolescence or something else that I don't have the specific term but it's not in good faith.

Everything I usually saw there that wasn't from direct searches I did, was from the For You feed which tbh, isn't that bad of an algorithm.

@AAKL @SomeAnoTooter
The problem is how will Mastodon catch the hive mind and grow? They want that and they need that but the disbursement of ideas across thousands of servers hurts that coalition, especially with politically active server admins.

If you need to verify your identity -- for say, getting access to an Artist account -- you have to use one of the major social media companies. Mastodon isn't even an option. That was a hard, stinging, reality for me to accept last week.

@david @AAKL @SomeAnoTooter well...

You're trying to sell stuff. Nothing wrong with that, it's not a criticism.

Have your sales gone up for your effort?

(Yes: Great! The people on there buying your stuff is good, and I sincerely congratulate you because, yes.

No: well, that's awkward.)

I'm not selling anything. I share ideas and learn from others. I have thousands of followers on other networks, I have few here. I prefer it here because less people are trying to sell me stuff.

@AAKL @SomeAnoTooter

Threads really seem to be pushing how much more action they have now than Twitter.

@david @AAKL @SomeAnoTooter I've never had an issue finding decent people and discussion there, it's a pretty good mainstream Fedi alternative for non-LGBTQ folks I think. If you don't care about their data selling stuff😬

I can say good stuff about it, but none of the good stuff has to do with Fedi, which is where my disconnect is, because this is my platform. I want Fedi to succeed, which is why I LOVE Flipboard and Mike's transparency on their integration and issues along the way. They are THE example of how a company should be when embracing the Fediverse.

@AAKL @SomeAnoTooter

I understand. It all depends on features and wants and needs. If you have any desire to find the mainstream mind, you won't find it on Mastodon. That doesn't mean smart or stupid -- it only means people who are on social media are settled, and of a certain age, they know what they like, and getting them to move takes more than the Mastodon ideal that we are are seeking here together. They want frictionless friends and predictability. Mastodon does not offer that.

@AAKL @SomeAnoTooter

I completely agree with you. I just wish you hadn't left Threads. You can't change what you don't control.

@AAKL @SomeAnoTooter

Threads is shouting into the abyss. It's sad, really. Unless, of course, you're one of the cool kids who works for Threads. Then people won't leave you alone!

@david @AAKL @SomeAnoTooter good for you. I'm glad you found what you wanted. 🙂

I found what I wanted here. Good luck to you! 🙂

@knowprose @AAKL @SomeAnoTooter
For me, it's more about accountability. People should be who they are, and own what they say online -- wherever that might be. A lot of the mainstream social services offer/require ID in order to take full advantage of their services.

Plus, I worked on my Facebook Page for years. Got it verified the old fashioned way -- I earned it! (Ha! John Houseman) -- and now that my page is turned on again a flood of all the old people like me are electrified!

@AAKL @SomeAnoTooter

It's okay for people to dismiss you. You win if you stay. We all lose when their effort to brush you off, is successful.

@david @AAKL @SomeAnoTooter nah, it's not worth it for me, is my point. I'm here, this is where I want to be and the place I want to succeed. If they turn it on eventually in good faith then fine, I'll be able to interact with their users from here, but that interaction just made me not care.

I have my people here. I love it here, but if they don't federate, it won't do me any good to be there anyway🤷‍♂️

@AAKL @SomeAnoTooter

Make sure you delete your Threads account! I keep getting prompted to follow you even though I know you quit.

@david @AAKL @SomeAnoTooter If you don't like how your mastodon admin manages the system, then you can always switch to a different mastodon service operated by a better admin. (There's a simple "click to move" button.) Or you can run your own and be your own admin.

In contrast, if you don't like the TikTok admin (and their ties to China's government), well, suck it up. And if you want to use Twitter/X, then you must accept Musk and his spontaneous mood swings.

@david @AAKL @SomeAnoTooter according to https://fediverse.one/display/fdc30534-2766-2e54-bdbb-959060800589 #Mastodon is run by 22.000 admins. "Threads" being only one of them...

fediverseobserver

2024-04-28 13:53:01

Found 7 new servers and 10 servers died off since 3 hours ago.

22,783 servers checked. 14,015,824 Total Users with 1,583,406 Active Users today. Check out the stats!

New #fediverse servers found:

zapiyome.com a #misskey server from Japan
mastodon.rollingkittens.com a #mastodon server from United States
nexus.servn.ca a #mastodon server from Canada
gotosocial.net a #gotosocial server from Private
eepy.express a #akkoma server from Belize
hereticsofia.com a #writefreely server from Brazil
ak.7shiro.com a #akkoma server from Private

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Do you often revisit your own old posts from, say, 4 months ago? Or 7 months ago? Or 15 months ago? I don’t, so for me it isn’t much of a problem. Just trying to understand the use cases for going back to your own old posts.

Edit: clicked send too early.

@hackerfactor @AAKL @SomeAnoTooter @BeAware

@m @SomeAnoTooter @AAKL @hackerfactor

I feel the same way. As an author and a publisher, I like to keep what I wrote. On the majors, that's easy! I can search and find out what I sad on what day -- years ago!

On Mastodon, running my own instance, but managed by someone else -- I'm close to my storage limits. So, either I delete old content, and the length of Federation, or I pay double a month what I'm paying now if I want to keep my history alive. More retention = more money!

I’m just thinking that me knowing you’d like to move away from Mastodon to a more usab…feature-rich Fediverse service, but you don’t due to not being able to bring all your old posts, and making that important because of a possible theoretical benefit to unknown others, basically means you punish yourself for no real reason. 😆

If you on the other hand took the leap today it wouldn’t take long to both re-publish (and pin) the posts that link to your other assets/online stuff, and it also wouldn’t take long to have filled the new place with enough content that it would end up higher in any search result for those topics.

Go on. Come to the dark side. We have cookies! 🤣

@david @SomeAnoTooter @AAKL @hackerfactor