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I really don't understand this sudden groundswell of support for #BlueSky.

It's just "X-Lite": a closed system run by a rich guy who sets his own rules.

#StayingOnMastodon #NotGoingAnywhere
#SocialMedia


‘A place of joy’: why scientists are joining the rush to #bluesky 🦋

Researchers say the social-media platform — an alternative to #X — offers more control over the content they see and the people they engage with.

nature.com/articles/d41586-024…


@louis Ja, die haben 20 Festangestellte (was nicht viel ist) und ja, es ist die nächste Risikokapital-Bude und niemand weiß, wann die Enshittification losgeht.

Aber es gab ein Zeitfenster fürs Fediverse und Mastodon - diese Chance wurde versäumt. Und #Bluesky macht gerade vieles richtig, wie zum Beispiel die Starter Packs um den Neuen gleich Netzwerke zu erschließen und so den Exodus fluffiger zu gestalten. Das alles fühlt sich so viel umarmender an als es hier je war - und das ist saumäßig wichtig, wenn Leute eine neue digitale Heimat suchen.


... to those moving from Mastodon to BlueShit - you crazy naive quacks! Wasn't getting burned on X enough?

#Fediverse #x #bluesky #mastodon


If you had to choose only one to use exclusively which one would you pick ?

Mastodon or Bluesky ?

Give specific reasons to back up your claim.
#mastodon #bluesky


"#Bluesky and #ATProto are not meaningfully decentralized, and are not federated either.

However, this is not to say that Bluesky is not achieving something useful; while Bluesky is not building what is presently a decentralized Twitter...

...it is building an excellent replacement for Twitter, and Bluesky's main deliverable goal is something else instead: a Twitter replacement, with the possibility of "credible exit"."

dustycloud.org/blog/how-decent…

via @cwebber



Who are the Montagues and who are the Capulets?

social.lol/@sophie/11351507391…

#mastodon #bluesky #shakespeare


Mastodon: Bluesky is Bad, actually
Bluesky: Mastodon is Bad, actually

It’s like a shit version of West Side Story. how long before a Mastodon user and a Bluesky user fall in love while communicating exclusively over the fedi bridge



I'm going to have to apologize a bit for the BlueSky slander I've been spreading. I did not realize it's actually open source and federated too. It just has its own protocol instead of ActivityPub.

I'm sticking with Mastodon, but I'm a little less upset now about BlueSky's recent prominence

#blueSky #mastodon #socialMedia


Updated #BlueSky my handle!

bsky.app/profile/fortyseven.ne…

Aww yiss. No worries, though. #Mastodon is my primary home. But it's good to diversify. Let's not put our eggs in one basket ever again. :P

(I'm not putting much effort into #Threads though. Already has that corporate stink about it. 🤢)


What, if so, makes #Mastodon superior to #Bluesky? I’m truly interested.


Bryggan mellan Bluesky och Mastodon funkar just nu bara i en riktning: Bluesky-> Mastodon pga att Bluesky-teamet ”gör underhållsarbete på sina reläer”. En liten påminnelse att Bluesky fortfarande är helt toppstyrt av företaget. Trist. #bluesky #bridgyfed


I'm loyal to #mastodon 💪🏾. I joined dis app to be free of allat shit . Fk #bluesky 👎🏾.
This bitch be bussing 💯 .
Y'all don't go leaving now 😒
We got fire this bitch up to be the #1 social app.
I looking for mo folks to fw . Follow me to connect. If you just joined. I wanna make mastodon fire 🔥
Love Jaden ❤️
#introduction #introductions


→ Bluesky and enshittification (by @pluralistic)
pluralistic.net/2024/11/02/uly…

“I would like to use Bluesky. They've done a bunch of seriously interesting technical work on #moderation and ranking that I truly admire, and I've got lots of friends there who really enjoy it.”

“My rule – I don't join a service that I can't leave without switching costs – is my Ulysses Pact, and it's keeping me #safe from danger I've sailed into too many times before.”

#enshittification #Bluesky #Ulysses


Did the company behind #bluesky just shit down the bridge to the fediverse? The so called bridge-fedi.


So all those arguments about how federating with #threads was vital so people here could connect with their daughters and grandparents … do they now apply to #bluesky too?

Or is a competing decentralised protocol less palatable than … Zuckerberg’s shitty mega corporation?


"“We’re building an open-source social network that anyone can take into their own hands and build on, and it’s something that is radically different from anything that’s been done in social media before. Nobody’s been this open, this transparent and put this much control in the users hands.”"

Well, once again, no. ActivityPub and the Fediverse really did this in terms of the users with no companies dictating the terms. What Bluesky is doing is not "radically different" or "put this much control in the users hands". We still can't 100% host our own instances on Bluesky and 90% of the user base is on Bluesky's servers. It did not start with users, it started with the company. Huge difference.

#Bluesky #OpenSource #SocialMedia


Let's dissect this...

"“The billionaire proof is in the way everything is designed, and so if someone bought or if the Bluesky company went down, everything is open source,” Graber said."

Well, no. Open source tools can still be bring down and we've seen examples of that, where even "open source companies" have been bought and shut down.

#Bluesky #OpenSource #SocialMedia


Bluesky CEO Jay Graber says X rival is ‘billionaire proof’ cnbc.com/2024/11/21/bluesky-ce…

#Bluesky #SocialMedia


@wjmaggos

Here is a post by @jwildeboer that explains how #bluesky is not decentralized.

TLDR: all traffic is routed through relays. All relays are operated by #bluesky.

There is a diagram included in the post. Yes, you can operate a personal data store at great expense. It's all laid out in the blog post.

jan.wildeboer.net/2024/11/My-D…


Had a look around #Bluesky. First impression: The onboarding experience is much easier than on Mastodon, but otherwise usability is a bit meh.
What they do well: Having Starterpacks helps getting the necessary number of follows up to where it begins to get fun. Its also generally easier to find and follow people, whereas Mastodon made this often very difficult
Two timelines for recommendations and follows don't really work for me, and they largely overlap


Folks that understand all about federation, and this world of federated social media some of us are experiencing for the first time, do you have good resources that 1) explain/outline differences between #mastodon and #bluesky?
2) contains the history of development of these two? Things like, when and why they were created, etc? Thanks in advance! (And thanks for potential boosts that could help this reach the right people)


Likewise, if we do want #bluesky #starterpack - style solutions, what does that mean to #mastodon from a stability perspective?

I noticed @jwz recently, talking about serious performance-related slowdown issues, related to having an account that is VERY popular. So, what does that mean if we create solutions which greatly encourage account popularity, without actually addressing server issues first?

In short, the issue of starter packs isn't just a simple good / bad question.


So far #Bluesky is gaining more users: mastodon.social/@madeindex/113…


🦋 #Bluesky now has over 20 Million user registrations!

Take a look at how the US #election impacted them:



Well, even though we'd like them to come here, better late than never.. and we'll still be here for them when Bluesky falls!

"I would hate to exclude people who might choose to stay on Twitter,” - for sure, we wouldn't want to deprive the Broligarchs, racists, bigots, fake AI and bots from their daily dose of Neuroscience content!

#Twitter #Bluesky


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I don't want to take anything away from Jay Graber. She is an effective leader that has steered her company to massive growth,

But I feel like she needs to work on her elevator pitch for what it means for a system to be "decentralized". Note: no one says the word "federated" in this interview.

Of course, it would be nice if #bluesky was *actually* decentralized. Maybe that is why she struggles with the question?

youtu.be/Xa-EvA95Eqw?si=lscEM-…

#fediverse #federation


Friendly reminder, if a cable is cut somewhere in the world, #mastodon will not go down.

Why? Because it is truly decentralized.

The #bluesky marketing doesn't hold up when compared to the facts.

theverge.com/2024/11/14/242965…


"Decentralised social media is more than just a technical shift; it's a step toward restoring autonomy and trust in our digital lives, empowering individuals and communities to connect without compromising their values or privacy."

A study by the Oxford Martin School at the University of Oxford finds that decentralised social media leads to citizen empowerment.

oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/news/dec…

#SocialMedia #Fediverse #Decentralised #Decentralized #Mastodon #Bluesky #Threads #X #Empowerment


Has Bluesky lost its mind today? According to clearsky.app, I've blocked many hundreds of people, as opposed to the 40 or so I was at yesterday. The same is happening for the "blocked by" figures. Is this a hack of some kind? Or Bluesky growing pains? #bluesky


Ensin aktivoin #bluesky ja nyt oonkin jo tääl... Miten tää homma toimii näin? 😅


Moment of truth as #Bluesky hits critical mass. Will its #moderation tools scale? Especially without aggressive monetisation to support them 🧐 (#Mastodon’s distributed model will hopefully get to the same point in future…)
From: @JamesBaker
social.openrightsgroup.org/@Ja…


Internal Server Error on Bluesky web service's Following feed feels very similar to error messages of early stage Twitter. Sudden growth of new users often causes growing pains to platforms.

#Bluesky


You can't count all the sites on the open web or all the users on #ActivityPub servers because they are decentralized. Yet #bluesky is now displaying their number of users by the second as they race to 21m. They really are "special".

But every other corporate platform has that information too. It's how they sell themselves to VCs and advertisers. #SocialWeb


This other social network has made #Mastodon is such a enigma. And not talking about Twitter.

"Hoping Mastodon will get it's great migration too."
"Hoping Mastodon stays small / underdog."

...shouted simultaneously out of the same mouths.

Proud to make my home here but it's odd.. maybe some of this noise is performative? Reminds me of the Linux / Apple "wars" in '90s.

Actually it's mostly good talk about #Bluesky here. IMO over there relatively we're barely mentioned.

Moving on.

#memes


😅

Only saw #Mastodon users negatively mention #Bluesky, not the other way around 🤷

Who could hate mammoth #social? ;) 🐘


"Open social media offers a chance to escape the cycle of good product turns bad product and wiping the slate clean to start again. Instead, open social media offers the chance to build in a space where you can easily hop-skip-jump to the next best platform without losing your community."

Check out what @saskia had to say about Bluesky continuing to grow.

forbetter.ghost.io/even-more-b…

#Fediverse #Mastodon #SocialMedia #Bluesky #X #OpenSocial #SocialWeb #Tech


@jnye
#BreakingNews

*Major #RedFlags regarding #Bluesky*

Via #DaveTroy

"1/There is nothing more embarrassing than watching hordes of liberals willingly herd themselves into a pen funded by #Russian capital. 👉Blue sky’s principal funder #BlockchainCapital LLC is run in part by #KirillDorofeev, who also works for VK, #Russia’s state social network👈..."

toad.social/@davetroy/11349345…

#Blockchain


1/There is nothing more embarrassing than watching hordes of liberals willingly herd themselves into a pen funded by Russian capital. Blue sky’s principal funder Blockchain Capital LLC is run in part by Kirill Dorofeev, who also works for VK, Russia’s state social network.